Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder and Fury Don't Want Joshua - Now Fans Know!

[Redgloveman]

I like to think I’m an objective poster and I wouldn’t class myself as an AJ fan. But people who are still defending Wilder and his team at this point need their heads examined.

The tide of popular opinion has turned so heavily against Wilder it’s unreal. Even the LDBC are basically in full retreat. Espinosa’s speech at the press conference was basically something approaching an apology.

[Redgloveman]

I think AJ Beats Wilder. I will give u credit for predicting a buy rate. If it’s lucky to break 1million then yeah 40 extra large would be a steal. So who is delusional? The guy paying Wilder 40 for 1million buys? So we have to assume AJ is going to make more than that. What’s that leave? U could be right on the sales but obviously the promoters are predicting more.

Or they might be buying Wilder’s belt.

A lot of the Wilder fans have been laughing at how aggressive DAZN’s approach on the market has been and suggesting that their policies aren’t financially viable. Maybe they’re playing the long game and maybe they think that the chance of controlling the undisputed HW world champ is worth ******** on.

But before we even get into that let this sink in. Wilder is fighting Breazeale on regular sho. He would have got TWENTY MILLION for taking the exact same fight but he turned it down.

Haymon must be a scary ass dude.

[Jkp]

Networks & promoters dont want there fighter they have invested a $100m in to lose.
So explain to me why eddie is so keen sign wilder and get him in the ring with AJ, knowing that 1 of them is guaranteed to lose.



I think its better they are on different networks/promtoers. It makes the fight more likely to happen.

[Jkp]

maybe they just don't want to deal with Hearn

Dillian Whyte agrees with you.

[Redgloveman]

Networks & promoters dont want there fighter they have invested a $100m in to lose.
So explain to me why eddie is so keen sign wilder and get him in the ring with AJ, knowing that 1 of them is guaranteed to lose.

I think its better they are on different networks/promtoers. It makes the fight more likely to happen.

Maybe that’s why Wilder turned down money that would have changed his life forever: because he thought maybe good old JKP would prefer it if I swerve away from Joshua.

Deontay’s a straight up ducker and he’s p*ssed me off

[greeneye99]

Rejecting the $100 3-fight DAZN offer has nothing to do with Wilder not wanting to fight Joshua. It's simple math. A percentage is better than a flat fee guarantee. If the Joshua fight makes $150 million and Wilder is locked in at $40 million, where does the other $110 million go? How much of a percentage is $40 million in the rematch if Wilder wins the first fight...

That's why you work with percentages and not flat fee guarantees. That's why the $50 million against 50% Sky offer to Joshua was such a great offer and spoke volumes about Joshua's true desire to fight Wilder when it was shockingly refused.

No need for a 3 fight deal with DAZN or a 5 fight deal with ESPN. Just a 2 fight deal against Joshua on DAZN or a 2 fight deal against Fury on ESPN with fair PERCENTAGES for each fight. And it doesn't have to be negotiated until after the WBC mandatory. That way, Wilder gets fair compensation for generating a $100 million fight or a $200 million fight.

Your post makes no sense
AJ turning down $50m with no contract & a Flat fee is wrong
But Wilder turning down $100m 3 fight deal is Perfect
You fan boys spin all types of Narratives on here
Lol
Btw
$50m wasn't a Sky offer dumb dumb

[TexasCowBoy]

I destroyed every one of your bs delusions. Run along wilderette.

You sure exposed that wilderette...the wilderettes are in full damage control

[Straightener]

Networks & promoters dont want there fighter they have invested a $100m in to lose.
So explain to me why eddie is so keen sign wilder and get him in the ring with AJ, knowing that 1 of them is guaranteed to lose.



I think its better they are on different networks/promtoers. It makes the fight more likely to happen.

Because once Joshua has all the belts he can do what he wants . They are trying to be undisputed champion . Joshua would make them 100million back in no time . Wilder is getting offered daft money to sell his belt .... nothing more

More likely to happen than signing a two fight deal ?

[Toffee]

I like to think I’m an objective poster and I wouldn’t class myself as an AJ fan. But people who are still defending Wilder and his team at this point need their heads examined.

The tide of popular opinion has turned so heavily against Wilder it’s unreal. Even the LDBC are basically in full retreat. Espinosa’s speech at the press conference was basically something approaching an apology.

It's so obvious isn't it?

Their man turns down $100m that was 100% offered. No doubt. Absolute fact. Confirmed. Completely undisputed.

And they go back to a supposed email from Wilder that said "I got da cheese. $50 mil *****".

FFS, how spastic can you be?

[P4Pdunny]

He forgets to mention that AJ is NOT SIGNED to anyone so no stopping him from SHOW/FOX PPV.Also Wilder has not signed a long term deal yet and ANY DEAL would have OUTS says Finkel so who cares where they fight interim fight.And don't change facts that AJ avoided this fight before and Fury CLEARLY ducked rematch that's undisputed he even said so.No fight NEXT he said and MAYBE 2nd of a 5 fight deal they sent to Wilder.Worst case and Wilder seems happy to fight another PBC fighter next AFTER Breazeale then it will just be a case NOW of one being scared and other being glad of it.Only winners the promoters and fanboys of either fighter.The loser's the REAL fans per usual.

AJ is signed to Matchroom Boxing..and there's a lot more in what you said but you people can't be helped.