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  • SN!PER
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    #101
    Say what you want, but remember this...

    Deontay will have the last laugh. He knows how much he's worth, and he knows exactly what he's doing. At this very moment, he and his team are preparing to make the biggest fights possible. Within the next 5 fights, without a doubt, Deontay Wilder will be crowned Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #102
      Originally posted by alexjust
      Turning down $100m...he must have some really good reason for it.
      I'd fight Wilder for $10m. All it really takes to hear the opening bell and then another one when Wilder lands. After that I'll have $10m. Probably something broken and my faculties shattered, but hey..$10mil is $10mil.
      If you own a pair of shorts, you're qualified as a Wilder opponent. Good luck

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      • MDPopescu
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        #103
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        If you own a pair of shorts, you're qualified as a Wilder opponent. Good luck
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        (...)

        I'm just putting myself in Wilders shoes. I'd take that money and run. Retire in 2-3 years with 100+mill and live the good life. (...)
        ... and you're "qualified" as Wilder himself...

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        • LacedUp
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          #104
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Not if the fever catches it's not.
          2m homes is $75m to split between them.

          If it breaks beyond that, who knows where it'll end up.

          Wilder's camp believed that Wilder-Joshua was a $100m fight Fall 2018 (honestly looking at it, I could see the take getting to over $70m without really having any idea that it'd go beyond that).

          And the fight has gotten bigger since then; how much bigger who knows, but Wilder's camp seems to think they have an epic coming their way.
          Wilder did 250k vs Fury.

          Let that sink in.

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          • DeanoFlash
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            #105
            Wilder is banking on himself. Not getting too excited about the numbers being aggressively thrown his way. One of the rules in the art of the deal is to never be pressured into making an agreement. It's just a law of business. Joshua had every right to turn down a hasty 50 million the way he did as well if we are talking about business principles.
            I think the Breazeale fight goes to FOX without PPV. They build it up and go for a spectacular KO to further build his bargaining power.
            DAZN and ESPN are not going to leave Wilder people. They have established streaming services who's absolute lifeblood is a paying userbase.
            They want to lock Wilder into a contract to leverage the excitement around his name and bank on network effects combining to take their platforms to the next level.
            I personally think Wilder needs to leverage for a giant ESPN one-off contract. DAZN has none of the media infrastructure, broadcast, cable, or digital that ESPN has here in America.
            I think he leverages FOX broadcast TV to build his demand even higher after Breazeale. He leverages for a huge one-off deal with ESPN for Fury. And then demands a lion share from DAZN for another one-off for Joshua.

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            • DeanoFlash
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              #106
              Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
              Say what you want, but remember this...

              Deontay will have the last laugh. He knows how much he's worth, and he knows exactly what he's doing. At this very moment, he and his team are preparing to make the biggest fights possible. Within the next 5 fights, without a doubt, Deontay Wilder will be crowned Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.

              DAZN and ESPN and these crazy numbers they are throwing around aren't going anywhere. Wilders team knows this. He's still the guy they need to take their streaming services to the next level.
              Sports streaming subscriptions are a novel concept and in their infancy stages. They need a humongous draw to take them to the next level. ESPN has tied down the entire UFC to their platform, but even together their presence on the platform isn't the same as the attraction that Wilder and Fury would be to the average sports fan.

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              • Adamsc151
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                #107
                If a minimum $100m, 3 fight, including a unification double-header deal is turned down; Wilder can give any excuse he wants and all any non-Wilderette will hear is "quack quack, cluck cluck"

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                • IRONCHINHAGLER
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                  #108
                  [QUOTE=MastaBlasta;19597886][QUOTE=IRONCHINHAGLER]Wilder v Breazele on ppv - Lol!!!! Good luck breakn 100k ....talk about a crap ppv main event mismatch!!

                  ESPN and DAZN are willing to pay $ tens of millions for it, crap or not. I think it's going to be another good fight, boxing fans.

                  Oh I forgot, how many $mllions did hearn pay for AJ to fight Breazeale?
                  good fight?? Yea rt....u must have thought the Aj-Breazele beatdown was a "good fight"...

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                  • kafkod
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Anthony Joshua gets 80% of the proceeds from his fight after costs are covered. Whether he's got one person handling the promotion for him, or bouncing between promoters in individual markets, the fighter walking away with most of the take on the event has been Haymon's mom since his name came into the lexicon.

                    Matchroom doesn't dictate TV to Joshua, doesn't dictate sponsors to Joshua, and really don't dictate fights to Joshua.

                    How is it different from Deontay Wilder having a handshake deal to have Lou DiBella as his promoter for all 9 of his fights over the last 4 years, with that basically not changing with Wilder's own company on the marquee?
                    You should stop giving lectures on the details of contracts you know nothing about.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                      Why do you presume to know anything about how Haymon operates? You've been one of hs fighters? They all say they like how he operates in taking care of their business. You've had business with Haymon?

                      Nope. Just a mouth on a bulletin board that is maybe paid noise for hearn (if you're lucky).
                      Hearn is a bona fide licenced boxing promoter and Haymon isn't, you moron, so how can they possibly operate in the same way ... unless Haymon is breaking the law?

                      And even if he was, that wouldn't be the same as how Hearn operates, because Eddie, whether you like him or not, works within the rules and never takes a penny off his fighters that he isn't legally entitled to.

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