Comments Thread For: CompuBox: Spence Now #1 in Power Connects, #2 in Jabs Thrown

[BigStomps]

Your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Mine is, you beat more elite and other p4p fighters, you get more consideration than some who don't fight elite fighters. You beat the elite and p4p fighters in dominant fashion, you get more consideration than someone barely beating his elite and p4p competition.

Now, if you can name someone currently doing that better than Errol Spence, I'm all ears...

Canelo!
But aside from Mikey who has Spence really beaten???
Please don't bring up Brook or Peterson.
Brook was already damaged goods and Peterson was way past his prime

[koolkc107]

Canelo!
But aside from Mikey who has Spence really beaten???
Please don't bring up Brook or Peterson.
Brook was already damaged goods and Peterson was way past his prime

Canelo falls in that barely squeeking by category.

And no, Brook wasn't damaged goods.

He was still the guy Thurman and Garcia didn't want to go near even AFTER the Golovkin fight. And while Golovkin did fracture his right eye socket, Brook was doing well enough to either be tied or ahead on the cards- he wasn't taking career damage and only took 4 rounds of punishment period.

Peterson was the same guy many thought beat Garcia, who is considered elite.

And Mikey is a great jr. welterweight who ran into an even greater welterweight.

What fighter has 3 still in their prime fighters of this quality who they were so dominant over?

And of course, there are other comparisons that can be made- for example, how Spence was much more dominant against opponents he had in common with other potential p4p guys.

[BigStomps]

Canelo falls in that barely squeeking by category.

And no, Brook wasn't damaged goods.

He was still the guy Thurman and Garcia didn't want to go near even AFTER the Golovkin fight. And while Golovkin did fracture his right eye socket, Brook was doing well enough to either be tied or ahead on the cards- he wasn't taking career damage and only took 4 rounds of punishment period.

Peterson was the same guy many thought beat Garcia, who is considered elite.

And Mikey is a great jr. welterweight who ran into an even greater welterweight.

What fighter has 3 still in their prime fighters of this quality who they were so dominant over?

And of course, there are other comparisons that can be made- for example, how Spence was much more dominant against opponents he had in common with other potential p4p guys.

Okay. If you wanna say Brook wasn't damaged then I'm cool with that. But he's far from elite! He's good but not elite! Neither is Peterson. Neither is Danny Garcia. Garcia lost to Porter so that says it all!
Mikey is very good but too Small for Spence. That was obvious even before the fight!

[Calibaloc]

Everyone knows that and those punches all hurt more than a jab. If you were as knowledgeable as you might think you'd also know it's well known compubox gets it wrong all the time. Sometimes massively, like they did in Spence-Garcia. Seems to be Spence fans that have a problem with me pointing this out, maybe they should drop the bias.

Maybe you should drop the bias. I notice that You always hate on certain fighters and got the nerve to talk about bias? man please...

[SplitSecond]

Mikey took such an awesome "career ending" beating he didnt even go to the hospital, just went home and chilled. Not even worried about brain damage.

[Robbie Barrett]

Maybe you should drop the bias. I notice that You always hate on certain fighters and got the nerve to talk about bias? man please...

Certain fighter? I call bs when i see it. Doesn't matter who it is.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Man. All these posters and how many of them have actually laced up and got into the ring with anyone?

You guys dont know **** and just act like tough guys because a screen protects you. You act like since he "partially blocked shots" Mikey wasnt hurt at all blah blah blah.

The dude literally stopped trying to fight and just made it an effort to survive till the bell so he could make it a moral victory.

Its no different than what pedraza did to lomachenko. Took no chances and just tried to survive till the end of the match.

Those shots that he "blocked " still hurt him. Put your hand up to the side of your head and let someone throw a hook at you with the intent to knock you the **** out. Since you blocked it it must not have hurt right?

Some yall so ****ing dumb.

Even if they didnt hit clean Mikey took a beating. Imo. They should have just ended the fight but continued for a moral victory. No p4p fighter gets shut out like that. Mikey had zero answers.

I'm not even a Spence fan. All I saw was jabs snapping Mikeys head back all night. He couldnt move in and when Spence let him. Still got beat up. Spence dominated every aspect of the fight. Outside fighting. Inside fighting. Distance management.

[jjsmyth87]

Your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Mine is, you beat more elite and other p4p fighters, you get more consideration than some who don't fight elite fighters. You beat the elite and p4p fighters in dominant fashion, you get more consideration than someone barely beating his elite and p4p competition.

Now, if you can name someone currently doing that better than Errol Spence, I'm all ears...

Garcia was the only elite fighter Spence has fought so far and mikey is a lightweight while spence is big enough to be a middleweight. The only good fighter brook beat was porter in a razor close fight. Loma took gary russel jr to school. Russell threw over 1000 pubches and loma dominated him. Also rigondeaux was supposedly supposed to give loma a tiugh fight and loma make him look like an amateur, beat him way worse than spence did mikey. Nicholas walters was an unbeaten champion his size abd loma made him quit. Loma moved up in weight to fight Linares and took him to school. Has won 11 title fights while Spence has won 6. Loma has a much better resume and its not even close.

[SweetPbfAli]

Look, you guys wanna ****er over whether it was 240 powershots or 180 powershots or 3 powershots, be my guest.

Mikey took a prolonged beating.

By all witness accounts including his own brother.

There are several professionals who are calling it "career changing" punishment.

So, that's what I'm concerned about.

One of my favorite fighters, a fighter I had on my personal p4p list a good year and a half before the official lists, THAT'S what I'm concerned about.

I hope Mikey recovers enough to give Loma the arsekickin I know he had coming for him.

Props to Errol for making his case for P4P#1.

Props to Mikey for showing he is a champion even without winning a round.

I hope he is OK.

Good post. But we know getting him to work with Arum for that Loma fight will be just as hard as the fight itself.

[Nusky]

Can someone tell me if there's any science or technology involved in the gathering of "compubox" numbers? I mean, is there even an actual computer involved? Seeing as how boxing is probably the most refined form of combat and one of the world's most historically Rich sports, surely by now they've figured out an EFFICIENT and ACCURATE way to truly know how many punches were thrown and landed. We're sure right? I see fans arguing over the numbers all the time (pointless) so they must be universally recognized as accurate or correct right? No way fans would make fools of themselves arguing over numbers that are"ballpark" or somewhat accurate.

Someone please enlighten me