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  • kushking
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    #31
    Originally posted by Boxing1013
    Andrade or Charlo are not legacy fights for anyone. They are good fighters and another good notch on the belt for someone like GGG but we don't know anything about them for them to be 'legacy' fights. If they were destroying every person they faced so far like a Mugabi did back in the day, then yeah, but short of that they have to do much more to be a legacy fight.

    You know it's a legacy fight if you get props after the fight for winning. If GGG beat Andrade or Charlo people would just start saying he should fight the other one, the other one is better lol
    1 is a champion & ggg is the #1 contender,& if he wins he becomes a roadblock to Canelo undisputed. The other is the interim wbc who if ggg beats becomes another way for ggg to face canelo. Ggg has talked more crap than anyone about honor/fighting 4 fans/Defending your obligations from sanctioning orgs etc.

    yet at every opportunity he continues to do the exact opposite of everything hes ever claimed to stand for & his fans just make excuses why they don't want him to man up,they've done this his entire career & now ggg will be another gifted hof inductee in comparison to others who won't make it that are more/or equally worthy such as Lara/Trout even/Groves etc.

    Ggg is a proven hypejob at this point,albeit one of the ones with the geeatest potential,but potential unrealized because hes played it safe his entire career,great fighters don't spend careers playing it safe
    Last edited by kushking; 03-18-2019, 05:05 PM.

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #32
      Originally posted by kushking
      1 is a champion & ggg is the #1 contender,& if he wins he becomes a roadblock to Canelo undisputed. The other is the interim wbc who if ggg beats becomes another way for ggg to face canelo. Ggg has talked more crap than anyone about honor/fighting 4 fans/Defending your obligations from sanctioning orgs etc.

      yet at every opportunity he continues to do the exact opposite of everything hes ever claimed to stand for & his fans just make excuses why they don't want him to man up,they've done this his entire career & now ggg will be another gifted hof inductee in comparison to others who won't make it that are more/or equally worthy such as Lara/Trout even/Groves etc.

      Ggg is a proven hypejob at this point,albeit one of the ones with the geeatest potential,but potential unrealized because hes played it safe his entire career,great fighters don't spend careers playing it safe
      You're wild dude - so Lemieux was a legacy fight? He was a champion. I expect you to give major props for that now whenever you mention GGG and his resume. GGG had 14 good KO wins in this decade and then 3 clear wins over Jacobs and Canelo. That is a hell of a resume for anyone who keeps it real. By far the most solid wins of any fighter in this decade. No one else even has 10. You don't have to like it but you should respect it. He is an ATG at MW and probably the GOAT there if we're being honest.

      Honestly I would like to see all the top guys at MW mix it up and they probably will the next few years. We are already seeing that with GGG having 2 Canelo fights and the Jacobs fight in his last 4. Don't know how you can hate on that lol. Then if Canelo is next in September a lighter touch for GGG in June just makes sense for everyone, especially the promoter.

      I personally am glad he got the Canelo fight(s) and will make a lot of money at the end of his career. His haters on here are so threatened by him and stick to the same boring lines about him. Your boy Canelo should have two losses on his resume after those fights but since he is the cash cow the judges gave it his way. I would expect you to want to see a 3rd fight to see if Canelo can finally beat an old GGG lol. Seems like you're scared bro.

      It's like GGG haters get their talking points from the same source lol. He has clearly already had an ATG career but people like you give him no love. So I am glad he finally got paid at the end of his career because no matter what he did in the ring you would never give him any credit. He is your boogeyman lol

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      • kushking
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        #33
        Originally posted by Boxing1013
        You're wild dude - so Lemieux was a legacy fight? He was a champion. I expect you to give major props for that now whenever you mention GGG and his resume. GGG had 14 good KO wins in this decade and then 3 clear wins over Jacobs and Canelo. That is a hell of a resume for anyone who keeps it real. By far the most solid wins of any fighter in this decade. No one else even has 10. You don't have to like it but you should respect it. He is an ATG at MW and probably the GOAT there if we're being honest.

        Honestly I would like to see all the top guys at MW mix it up and they probably will the next few years. We are already seeing that with GGG having 2 Canelo fights and the Jacobs fight in his last 4. Don't know how you can hate on that lol. Then if Canelo is next in September a lighter touch for GGG in June just makes sense for everyone, especially the promoter.

        I personally am glad he got the Canelo fight(s) and will make a lot of money at the end of his career. His haters on here are so threatened by him and stick to the same boring lines about him. Your boy Canelo should have two losses on his resume after those fights but since he is the cash cow the judges gave it his way. I would expect you to want to see a 3rd fight to see if Canelo can finally beat an old GGG lol. Seems like you're scared bro.

        It's like GGG haters get their talking points from the same source lol. He has clearly already had an ATG career but people like you give him no love. So I am glad he finally got paid at the end of his career because no matter what he did in the ring you would never give him any credit. He is your boogeyman lol
        "an atg or the greatest mw of all time"

        theres no point even bothering debate boxing with you but ill try to explain it in such a way you can't possibly be novice enough to dispute. Ggg has 1 Win over a good opponent on his entire resume 2 if you want to count murray,lemule was a vacant undefended jr beltholder who had been beaten by Alcine & kod by Rubio ffs,

        If ggg beat either Andrade/Charlo hed be GUARANTEED another crack at the cashcow,
        but he wants Canelo to delay becoming undisputed against Andrade & face him instead,& what would be the excuse ggg stans would say then,the same excuse your already using that "ggg is old" but if he rightfully makes ggg earn a rematch by showing hes not washed up by beating someone decent,then you fanbois would use the excuse that Canelo ducked ggg & that he robbed him.

        ggg fans are a joke,the only fanbase that gives him hypothetical wins,& that wants him to keep ducking anyone but small gingers. Ggg fans the only fanbase without shame,who refuse to accept non gggstans been right since day 1 about ggg ducking ways.
        Last edited by kushking; 03-18-2019, 06:35 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by kushking
          "an atg or the greatest mw of all time"

          theres no point even bothering debate boxing with you but ill try to explain it in such a way you can't possibly be novice enough to dispute. Ggg has 1 Win over a good opponent on his entire resume 2 if you want to count murray,lemule was a vacant undefended jr beltholder who had been beaten by Alcine & kod by Rubio ffs,

          If ggg beat either Andrade/Charlo hed be GUARANTEED another crack at the cashcow,
          but he wants Canelo to delay becoming undisputed against Andrade & face him instead,& what would be the excuse ggg stans would say then,the same excuse your already using that "ggg is old" but if he rightfully makes ggg earn a rematch by showing hes not washed up by beating someone decent,then you fanbois would use the excuse that Canelo ducked ggg & that he robbed him.

          ggg fans are a joke,the only fanbase that gives him hypothetical wins,& that wants him to keep ducking anyone but small gingers. Ggg fans the only fanbase without shame,who refuse to accept I've been right since day 1 about ggg ducking ways.
          DAZN wants the 3rd Canelo GGG fight so they will get it and they will set it up. That's the biggest money fight in the sport so of course it is going to happen. I would probably favor it 50/50 but I thought that last time and GGG won that one too so he will probably take this one if that holds.

          GGG has Murray, Brook, Monroe, Stevens, Ouma, Lemieux, Macklin, Geale, Rubio, Proksa, Rosado, Vanes, Ishida, Adama all by KO. All different types of fighters, all more or less in their prime. Probably lost 10 rounds in those fights combined. Just dominated. Hell of a resume for anyone keeping it real. Not to mention the one-sided decisions in Canelo GGG 1 and Jacobs GGG.

          And the 2nd Canelo GGG fight was about the same score as the other because GGG is so hard to win clean rounds against. Even if you land a couple good shots on him, and it may happen, it's boxing, he still outlands you and outworks you almost every round. Just a great great fighter. Should be appreciated much more.

          How did you score, rd by rd, the 2 Canelo GGG fights? Can't see how anyone keeping it real could say Canelo won those fights. Just didn't get enough rounds at all, they weren't there

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          • Boxing_1013
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            #35
            Originally posted by kushking
            "an atg or the greatest mw of all time"

            theres no point even bothering debate boxing with you but ill try to explain it in such a way you can't possibly be novice enough to dispute. Ggg has 1 Win over a good opponent on his entire resume 2 if you want to count murray,lemule was a vacant undefended jr beltholder who had been beaten by Alcine & kod by Rubio ffs,

            If ggg beat either Andrade/Charlo hed be GUARANTEED another crack at the cashcow,
            but he wants Canelo to delay becoming undisputed against Andrade & face him instead,& what would be the excuse ggg stans would say then,the same excuse your already using that "ggg is old" but if he rightfully makes ggg earn a rematch by showing hes not washed up by beating someone decent,then you fanbois would use the excuse that Canelo ducked ggg & that he robbed him.

            ggg fans are a joke,the only fanbase that gives him hypothetical wins,& that wants him to keep ducking anyone but small gingers. Ggg fans the only fanbase without shame,who refuse to accept non gggstans been right since day 1 about ggg ducking ways.
            Only guy with a real claim over him as the GOAT at MW is Hagler. And Hagler's KOs over Hearns and Mugabi are probably better than GGG's 3 decisions over Canelo and Jacobs. But GGG also never had a hiccup and Hagler struggled quite a few times against guys he shouldn't have, and lost a few as well.

            Have to give Hagler his props as well but matchup wise I don't think that would suit Hagler at all. He struggled against anyone who could box and move and take a punch, and if GGG stayed behind the jab it would probably be a very one-sided fight for GGG.

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              #36
              GGG-Andrade is very risky. GGG will fight a bum in june to fight Canelo in september. Andrade vs Sulecki is a good option.

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                #37
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                Golovkin would slaughter Mugabi. The guy stood in front of Hagler and accepted punches in a clueless fashion. Hagler wore him down and finished him off. He can hit no doubt and is dangerous but Hagler and Golovkin have rock solid chins. No way in hell he beats Golovkin or Canelo for that matter.
                I agree Tony. A good win for Hagler but Hagler was always better than Mugabi. I have to appreciate Hagler's toughness, taking Mugabi's best shots and Hearns' (as short as that fight was).

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing1013
                  I agree Tony. A good win for Hagler but Hagler was always better than Mugabi. I have to appreciate Hagler's toughness, taking Mugabi's best shots and Hearns' (as short as that fight was).
                  Hagler was a small Middleweight but I really admired that he could land those short little punches that wore down his opponents. More often than not he was the guy finishing the exchanges.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kushking
                    "an atg or the greatest mw of all time"

                    theres no point even bothering debate boxing with you but ill try to explain it in such a way you can't possibly be novice enough to dispute. Ggg has 1 Win over a good opponent on his entire resume 2 if you want to count murray,lemule was a vacant undefended jr beltholder who had been beaten by Alcine & kod by Rubio ffs,

                    If ggg beat either Andrade/Charlo hed be GUARANTEED another crack at the cashcow,
                    but he wants Canelo to delay becoming undisputed against Andrade & face him instead,& what would be the excuse ggg stans would say then,the same excuse your already using that "ggg is old" but if he rightfully makes ggg earn a rematch by showing hes not washed up by beating someone decent,then you fanbois would use the excuse that Canelo ducked ggg & that he robbed him.

                    ggg fans are a joke,the only fanbase that gives him hypothetical wins,& that wants him to keep ducking anyone but small gingers. Ggg fans the only fanbase without shame,who refuse to accept non gggstans been right since day 1 about ggg ducking ways
                    like he was guaranteed the first time? you do remember that canelo vacated the belt when forced to fight ggg. when they actually fought it wasn't through the mandatory process. alzheimers

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      Hagler was a small Middleweight but I really admired that he could land those short little punches that wore down his opponents. More often than not he was the guy finishing the exchanges.
                      Yep well said all around my friend. I think if he fought today he would likely be at 154.

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