May 18 Wilder vs Breazeale won't take place on DAZN

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #51
    Originally posted by R_Walken
    Don’t be so gullible Robbie Parrot

    Mannix is a Dazn employee, Not sure how he can be viewed as a accurate or trustworthy source on this , He Clearly he has a agenda and will be loyal to the company that writes his cheques. I mean the guys Podcast since he became a DAZN employee , Overnighf the show basically became a Dazn Poscast ,Unless it’s a journalist like
    RAFEAL or Idec . If Mannix is interviewing fighters its 80-90 % of the time it’s a Dazn Fighter

    Mannix Definitely wouldn’t he playing the role
    Of a company man on this subject. Just straight Unbiased Journalism.
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    I don’t care where Wikder fights whether it’s Showtime /Dazn /Espn / Bet / CNN or Al jeezera, But if a AJ fight isn’t guaranteed in the contract it’s probably unlikely that Haymon /Wikder would be Willing to help a rival platform build off
    His name while hurting his platform at the same time and one that he’s been at for years and built him up. If the Breazeale fight is on PPV and can do OK #s , Wilder won’t get 25 but he won’t be next to Robbie Parrot , Juggernaut, Redemeer in the line at the soup kitchen either.

    I’m sure Wilder would be happier then a pig in sh.it getting 50 mil to fight Breazeale and Im assuming Usyk . Because Whyte is reported to be going to Top Rank /Espn and Klit is still retired. So that’s the only name possible

    That’s a big risk for Wikder to fight a great boxer in Usyk before he fights AJ. If Usyk doesn’t get dropped youd think he’d win that fight. And not
    Only does Wilder miss out on a AJ fight and rematch and what 80-100 million . but he also hands the strap over to a Matchroom fighter with Hearn /Dazn having all the straps without AJ having to face Wikder or risk getting KTFO. I don’t think that’s a option anyone on Team Wilder would be willing to do , Basically it’s the exact same thing as when Hearn said Wilder had to fight Whyte before he’d get a AJ fight and if he won there wasn’t a guarantee AJ would be next. Same scenario except replace Whyte with a way better boxer in Usyk who if he doesn’t get dropped would almost surely get the decision.

    All these guys( Haymon , Hearn , Espinoza , Skipper , Finkel ) are playing 3-D chess in these
    Negotiations and trying to gain a advantage in one way or Another because the significance of the fight is so big.’ the moves or offers aren’t always as they seem or
    Should be taken at their face value , There’s always a ulterior motive at play


    Here's the thing though, now Showtime/Fox HAVE to match or come close to offering what DAZN have. How will it help showtime/Fox putting a Brazeale fight on PPV? That will tank, and so will the next one if it's not Fury or Joshua. Fact is they don't have the opponents that they need to sell his fights to pay him that kind of money IMO.

    Personally, I wouldn't care if the Joshua fight was a guarantee. They wanna pay me 100 mill, where do I sign?

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    • todisday
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      #52
      We'll see how this plays out. If Wilder is rejecting DAZN's offer, then that likely means Showtime is offering him comparable money, and Wilder believes he can still force the Joshua fight to happen under a 50-50 split in the future.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #53
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        None of this really makes sense ,you go where you are making most money it has nothing to do what you look like . Being the bigger star on a PBC fight against Breazeale ? wilder is nearly mid 30's now who basically isa Barclay center fighter in 4 title defenses, where his star power now ?

        DAZN is the smallest amount of eyes he could possibly have on his fight. SO his star power is done growing on DAZN (goes for anyone right now), now he would be getting super star money but if they are offering that for what he is now what will they offer when he is coming off looking great against Breazeale with more eyes on him higher q rating generally equals more pay. If it is on PPV that will hurt the number of eyes but there will at least be shoulder programming on Showtime or Fox to help make people aware.

        Heavyweights generally last pretty well into their 30's so 33 should leave him plenty of years (5 or like 10 fights if healthy) and it is not like he has been in a ton of wars to take tread off his tires so he should have several good years left.

        What is there not to get in this situation? Now is not the time to make the Joshua fight so this means nothing and the fight will be big enough to force people to work together as long as both keep winning and the timing won't change much, especially since they were talking about two interim fights for both anyway.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
          Here's the thing though, now Showtime/Fox HAVE to match or come close to offering what DAZN have. How will it help showtime/Fox putting a Brazeale fight on PPV? That will tank, and so will the next one if it's not Fury or Joshua. Fact is they don't have the opponents that they need to sell his fights to pay him that kind of money IMO.

          Personally, I wouldn't care if the Joshua fight was a guarantee. They wanna pay me 100 mill, where do I sign?
          I don’t think Showtime/Fox can offer comparable $ if it’s a 3 Fight 100 mil offer. I’d think
          The best Wilder could do is be on PPV and
          Let the chips fall and get paid by the amount
          Of buys. But I can’t imagine that it’d be anywhere near 33mil a fight.

          Will a Breazeale fight tank , I don’t know , If it gets 200k + with almost all the revenue of the fight going to Wilder he might do OK.

          I’m going to wait until the Wilder press conference on Tues and hear what Wikder has to say before I really have a opinion. I can understand him turning down a 2 fight offer with no guarantee of AJ and him having to fight Usyk. But if the offer was fight Breazeale then fight AJ and a rematch for 100 , I can’t really co-sign Wilder turning that down it’s crazy cash and you get AJ after Breazeale. He wouldn’t have to jump through hoops or face a skilled boxer and risk the AJ payday. For me There’s no reason to turn that down

          But the devils in the details. The more I thought about it the more I think that this fight isn’t just the most anticipated fight in the sport or a fight for anything and everything in the HW division that has the winner going into the History books and being looked at as the best of his era

          HWs always been the glamour division of the sport and easiest to attract casual sport fans. The winner of AJ/Wilder isn’t just going to finish their career probably making a healthy 9 figures. The team and platform of whoever wins will also get to control and dictate the HW division for years and get to make Billions of dollars in the process/ They will most likely get to shift the entire landscape of the sport in their favour . It wouldn’t be just the HW division they control but probably the entire sport theyd also get a firm grasp on.

          The stakes are huge for all parties. Which will make Aj/Wilder hard to make ,’there’s so much on the line

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