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  • #61
    Originally posted by Nusky View Post
    I don't care what these fighters make. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a man making his money to take care of his family. But my top priority as a fan of boxing is to see the best fights. The paydays and politics are none of my concern.

    I would rather see my favorite fighter take on a legit mandatory challenger in a fight where the outcome is anyone's guess. Not fight a bum to preserve a matchup against a fighter who Robs his opponents regularly for a living. Where's the fun in that?.. just my opinion.
    I guess when you're a fan of a fighter, I don't want to see him make terrible business decisions and make $10 million when he could make $100 million.

    And honestly I would probably feel that way about any fighter. These guys are not playing a game, this is life and death stuff. I too want to see the best fights, but those fights are usually what bring in the most money as well, so it all tends to work out.

    For example I am not really a Floyd fan but if he can get big money every fight, God bless him. Did you heavily criticize him fighting Berto instead of Spence btw?

    I don't think that Dervy fight would have happened on May 5th so it would have thrown a wrench in GGG's plans. And at 36 he didn't really have time to mess around. He made the right move - fight Vanes, then Canelo in September. If he fought Dervy it wouldn't have been in May and the 2nd Canelo fight and $30 million or so he got wouldn't have happened.

    And I can guarantee if GGG smashed Dervy then people would just say - well he ******, GGG really didn't want (insert name here).

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    • #62
      Originally posted by MPDKSAB View Post
      You're talking business not me. That wasn't included in my terms.

      As for Dazn John Skipper didn't seem opposed to it when asked about it.

      I guess the point is, if GGG has 6 fights with DAZN. Andrade Jacobs and Canelo are also with DAZN.

      I mean you see where this is going right. All those guys are going to have to fight each other. DAZN is going to make sure it happens.

      Besides 3/4 of GGG's last fights are with Canelo and Jacobs. Then a last minute replacement of Vanes who is a good fighter.

      If people kill GGG for taking a tune up in June before a big pay day in September I also want them to kill Ward for taking 3 tune ups before a big pay day against Kovalev.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Thesundancekid View Post
        Turned down the opportunity to become undisputed when he had the chance to fight BJS, I get canelo was the money fight, but he chose money over legacy, and look how that turned out for him.
        Well, he got a lot of money. Legacy won't bring the bacon, pal.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
          He doesn't need the belts he is the "people's champ"
          Well, he had them already. For many years. In that department he has nothing to prove. And "people's champ" narrative seems to do wonders for Fury. Coupled with "lineal".

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
            so basically you're assuming that gggs next fight will be VS a can because he said he wants to fight the best in the division despite titles. OK, not sure what he should've said but let's say he does fight a can next. You said canelo fought fielding because it was a quick turn around but ignore the fact that Canelo did that after a full year lay off.... Due to peds, but it was still a full yr layoff. Both Canelo and ggg fought twice in 2018. Once against a can and once against each other. Now ggg lost his last fight, don't most fighters usually take a lighter touch after a loss? Isn't that what Canelo did when he lost? Isn't that what Jacob's did when he lost? But you're being hypocritical in your complaint. I hope he doesn't fight a can but you making excuses for Canelo and coming on here as if you made some grand discovery about ggg is ******.
            So fielding was such a can he beat a guy to get his jr belt,the same jr belt the entire division could've taken if it was so easy. Fielding was ranked top 10 smw by every outlet btw.(he was a cherry BUT: Charlo/Andrade/Saunders etc. have looked like sht vs bums & are mws not smw,yet again ggg doesn't even need to move up but just to face Someone good instead of a can with a lame assumption of a 3rd payday(it isn't going to happen,Dazn doesn't choose canelos fights gbp does). you love deflecting onto me when its you whos a major hypocrite that does mental gymnastics justifying ggg who you claim to not be a fanboi of.

            YOU were the one talking mad sht about canelo fighting fielding 3 mos after ggg,

            You are the one who was saying "canelos going to fight a bunch of fieldings in a row,hes not gonna face Jacobs/Andrade/charlo/Btant etc. this yr. youll see hes a btch"etc.

            YOU then gave him props when he announced jacobs was next but immediately changed to crying that hes gonna rob jacobs now.


            YOU now have done a complete 180 as usual with your precious hypejob ggg already contradicting every single thing.

            NOW its ok if ggg waited a yr to face a bum despite supposedly being the true mw champ,

            NOW its ok for ggg to assume he gets canelo(he won't) in September as a reward for ducking his mandatories & facing a can.

            NOW suddenly ggg is not aging a yr per day like ggg stans claim.

            NOW ggg suddenly is allowed to only face canelo for life despite u stans saying hes old when he loses.
            Last edited by kushking; 03-12-2019, 01:26 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Thesundancekid View Post
              Turned down the opportunity to become undisputed when he had the chance to fight BJS, I get canelo was the money fight, but he chose money over legacy, and look how that turned out for him.
              Very inaccurate statement. You can't be the undisputed champ without beating the rightful lineal champ. Get your head out.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
                And I can guarantee if GGG smashed Dervy then people would just say - well he ******, GGG really didn't want (insert name here).
                That. Replace Dervy with any other name and same would be true. No chance you would convince GGG's haters that the guy is legit and HOF. If not one of the ATG. They adore Canelo, but close their eyes to the fact that Canelo, being in his prime, has never convincingly beat past his prime GGG. And given how close the fights were its just illogical to trash GGG while elevating Canelo to the boxing heaven. If only hatred was rational

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs View Post
                  GGG would’ve been undisputed Champion with all the belts. Canelo would’ve been forced to concede with 50/50.

                  In fact if GGG had all the belts after beating Saunders they could’ve stayed defending and toppling Hopkins’ record while making Canelo wait and still giving step asides to any mandatories, THEN fight Canelo. By that time HBO would’ve been gone and the networks would’ve been wanting GGG today, no different. DAZN was already in motion in Europe before it hit the USA.

                  Point is, GGG would’ve been A side king and making more than his choices of ditching BJS in Astana and then going to Canelo. GBP can’t be blamed for that. Loeffler and GGG are grown men.
                  I'm sure you are absolutely right. Still GGG is probably extremely happy with the $50 million he banked. $50 million verses maybe $75 million doesn't really make that much difference to his financial security or lifestyle.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                    You keep referring back to canelo but I am not speaking about canelo and the article has nothing to do with him. You're hate for canelo is just too strong. Seek help.
                    actually your obsessive love for Canelo is what sparked your comment about ggg to begin with. You brought him up in a defensive way when I didn't say anything about Canelo and his past cherry picks until you showed your cards. Here are your own words,"No I'm just saying that back then it was all about "my belts" "legacy" "not businesman" "canelo not real boxer he businessman" ... What happened lol". So perhaps you should address your infatuation with being so defensive of Canelo that everything you post revolves around defending him.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
                      I'm sure you are absolutely right. Still GGG is probably extremely happy with the $50 million he banked. $50 million verses maybe $75 million doesn't really make that much difference to his financial security or lifestyle.
                      My friend I’m sure there are Forbes’ style forums where nerds compare what other executives could’ve done or do to make significantly more even though these same executives were already wealthy.

                      Fook dat. Boxing fans want to see what other men can’t achieve aside from money.

                      Again, GGG had all the power to make history in his home town and unify with BJS.

                      Part of me tells me GGG’s REAL CHARACTER was that he was afraid of losing all his belts in his home town.

                      Either way, Canelo would have to SEE GGG no matter what. So I don’t understand these GGG diehard excuses that “choosing” Canelo made sense all when Canelo had to see GGG’s belts anyways.

                      Therefore, GGG is a betch. boliodogs

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