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  • #11
    What a pos. Can't even admit a loss.

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    • #12
      Kavaliauskas - Ugas, Mean Machine would stop the guy

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Granath View Post
        I'd argue that ****** fan over-reactions are killing the sport. Porter out-landed Ugas and was the busier fighter. There was no knockdown, either by video (https://********/-k7NCtz4Jwc?t=17) or by the referee. It was an outstanding call.

        What we have again is a group that has confused showmanship with ring generalship much like they did with the Fury-Wilder fight. They aren't the same thing. Stalking around the ring making faces (as in the case of Ugas) or acting in out-sized theatrics (in the case of Fury) don't lead to effective, clean punches - which is what really wins fights. Too many people confuse these and they shouldn't.

        Could it have gone as a split draw? Sure. It could have even gone by a round to Ugas (though that's a stretch). It could have gone a round or two to Porter - and ultimately it did. But for no true boxing fan is going to sit here and think it was a clear decision either way. It was an ugly fight where no one established any kind of dominance or even had a signature moment. Usually in those cases the tiebreaker goes to the champ and it did here.
        Thank you... A fight with a lot of uneventful "action."....Shaun doesnt need to give this guy a rematch because the uneventful action would only increase! Ugas had his chance; but he focused on trying to act like a tough guy statue, which doesnt win you the fight you've so longed for!

        It always boils down to 'skilz' and a champions mentality. Ugas, with his emphasis on fear, does not work on opponents that do their homework - like Porter. If Porter humbles himself and ditches dad for a minute, he'd see his blatant flaws better under a new tried & proven coach. His 'champion' mentality, is waaay up to par though.

        I remember after their fight in an interview with both guys present, that Thurman was trying give Porter some pointers on how to improve his fighting game, but he seemed to hold back knowing they'd probably have to go at it again in a rematch..... Thurman is gonna take it again if Porter doesn't land one of those wide haymakers on his chin and knocks him out...

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        • #14
          What do you mean discrepencies about who won the fight? We all know that Ugas won the fight but what do you respect from boxing. Corruption has become synonymous with the sport.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by kidaguilar View Post
            What do you mean discrepencies about who won the fight? We all know that Ugas won the fight but what do you respect from boxing. Corruption has become synonymous with the sport.
            Did you read and understand posts 5 and 8?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Granath View Post
              I'd argue that ****** fan over-reactions are killing the sport. Porter out-landed Ugas and was the busier fighter. There was no knockdown, either by video or by the referee. It was an outstanding call.

              What we have again is a group that has confused showmanship with ring generalship much like they did with the Fury-Wilder fight. They aren't the same thing. Stalking around the ring making faces (as in the case of Ugas) or acting in out-sized theatrics (in the case of Fury) don't lead to effective, clean punches - which is what really wins fights. Too many people confuse these and they shouldn't.

              Could it have gone as a split draw? Sure. It could have even gone by a round to Ugas (though that's a stretch). It could have gone a round or two to Porter - and ultimately it did. But for no true boxing fan is going to sit here and think it was a clear decision either way. It was an ugly fight where no one established any kind of dominance or even had a signature moment. Usually in those cases the tiebreaker goes to the champ and it did here.
              Couldn't be stated any better than that. Excellent reply, Granath.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Granath View Post
                I'd argue that ****** fan over-reactions are killing the sport. Porter out-landed Ugas and was the busier fighter. There was no knockdown, either by video (https://********/-k7NCtz4Jwc?t=17) or by the referee. It was an outstanding call.
                When a boxer went down after a shot is a count, even when he slip. IS the rule but not for latins like cubans whthout fan base.

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                • #18
                  Porter lost. Period. Nothing in an apologetic post can change the truth. He lost and Ugas deserve the win. All people saw that, except the fanaticals like you and others

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by arraamis View Post
                    Porter vs Ugas was a bizarre fight to say the least. It was fulled with amateurish mistakes that you don't expect to see when a Champion is in the ring.

                    I honestly don't know how the judges were able to score this fight. Porter was doing his best ineffective Ali interpretation, while Ugas was following Porter around the ring making faces and waiving his arms.

                    Porter: Changing your style of boxing is a good thing, especially from the head-first, bull-rushing method of brawling that you're known for. But don't faint, dance, shook and jive non-stop and think that's going to be effective. At the very least, you should throw some punches.

                    Ugas: Don't follow your opponent around the ring giggling, and making faces waiting to counter all twelve rounds. Take the fight to the Champ or else, stay home. For someone to state, that he's been waiting eight years for this chance - it didn't look like it was worth the wait.

                    WTF!!!!!!!:
                    Not only do I love the post, but it was hilarious!!

                    It was a strange fight. Score the fight, or throw a dart at the end of each round to pick a winner. same thing. Arguments can be made for either fighter, and none of them are wrong.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                      Hard fight to score I had Ugas winning but could of went either way thought draw would prob be best to many mistakes by both fighters though
                      Saw it the same way - Ugas had the fight if he would have just initiated more action instead of strictly counterpunching. Against a bouncy, active guys like Porter, Ugas did just enough to lose.

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