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  • Bullrider
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    #11
    So your concern is about Wilder breaking his ties with PBC and Showtime, not about the sport in general. I see. You want him to fight the Arreolas, Stivernes, Breazeale's, Washingtons...

    Network fanboy.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #12
      Originally posted by KRAFTSMAN
      So your concern is about Wilder breaking his ties with PBC and Showtime, not about the sport in general. I see. You want him to fight the Arreolas, Stivernes, Breazeale's, Washingtons...

      Network fanboy.
      wishful thinking on your part...and a diversion attempt

      i want the fight...ive wanted the fight for over a year now lol

      it shouldnt be hard to hammer out a deal for both sides...but hearn has been dancing

      so much that lennox, fury, parker, froch and khan have all stated hes avoiding the fight....so much that hearns own daddy advised everyone to wait it out for a couple of years

      its obvious DAZN only wants the fight now if they have both fighters under control so they CANT LOSE..otherwise they are ok with hearn running his song and dance and prolonging it....but if they can get wilder they are ok with since they are guaranteed to have the winnner

      IT CLEARLY SHOWS Dazn doesnt want to carry risk...wilders side has been willing to carry risk since the get go

      if wilder beats AJ without DAZN having the option on wilder their investment in AJ does not look/sit well

      yall didnt want AJ to sell his soul for 50 million...but not are actively rooting for wilder to sell his over 10 mil or 5 mil or whatever the difference would be between showtimes offer for his next fight and dazns offer for his next fight

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #13
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        the only light that needs to be shed is the one im shedding

        DAZN and ESPN dont want to fight wilder without having an option on wilder SO THEY CANT LOSE!

        wilder has been willing to make those fights...showtime has been willing to make those fights without having options on fury or AJ!!!

        showtime and haymon get wilder as much as any other american fighter....wilder is paid fair market value

        hearn and espn are only offering him more money if he comes and works for them! that way they know they have the guaranteed winner of their fights! without it they wont give him that money!!! wilder isnt worth that money to them without having the future option on him should he win! both networks scared to carry risk and fight wilder without having a piece of wilder!

        wilder gets fair US market value where hes at.....guys are willing to overpay him now if they lock him in and have 100 percent of his fights against AJ and fury! without that they wont overpay him either!

        you dumb monkey!
        What the **** man? Thats racist.

        I still dont know why you care? Wilder isnt contracted to Showtime. DAZN is offering him 3 fights, 1st is the fight he is already planning to have and the next 2 are Joshua and Wilder has demanded 2 fights against Joshua. After that he can do as he pleases, im sure DAZN will offer him another deal if he wins but he dont have to take it he can take him and all his belts back to Showtime. And he will be paid more for all 3 fights than Haymon is willing to pay him.

        Oh yeah and you yourself as a fan will get all 3 fight a hell of alot cheaper than you would if Showtime was showing them. I really dont see what you are crying about. Infact i dont see what ANYBODY other than Espinoza is crying about.

        Im not even sure you know what you are crying about. I think you are a bit lost, you want to go on the attack of Joshua, Hearn, DAZN but everything is just too acceptable for you to find an opening, so you are just talking **** cuz you dont know what to do or say.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          What the **** man? Thats racist.

          I still dont know why you care? Wilder isnt contracted to Showtime. DAZN is offering him 3 fights, 1st is the fight he is already planning to have and the next 2 are Joshua and Wilder has demanded 2 fights against Joshua. After that he can do as he pleases, im sure DAZN will offer him another deal if he wins but he dont have to take it he can take him and all his belts back to Showtime. And he will be paid more for all 3 fights than Haymon is willing to pay him.

          Oh yeah and you yourself as a fan will get all 3 fight a hell of alot cheaper than you would if Showtime was showing them. I really dont see what you are crying about. Infact i dont see what ANYBODY other than Espinoza is crying about.

          Im not even sure you know what you are crying about. I think you are a bit lost, you want to go on the attack of Joshua, Hearn, DAZN but everything is just too acceptable for you to find an opening, so you are just talking **** cuz you dont know what to do or say.
          if wilder finds it all acceptable than im all for it.....but its not done yet and i already know how you and the rest of the dumb UK monkeys are going to react if he says no.....youre already going to call it a duck

          the fight does more money if its in the US....if wilder signs on it will surely be in the UK....even though it makes most sense for vegas...

          i hope the fight gets made ASAP...but DAZN will only come ready if they have to carry 0 risk....

          wilders side has been willing to carry risk the whole time but hearn and DAZN are shook of their investment in AJ going caput if they get ko'd.....and it certainly didnt do it any favors when they saw fury almost get murdered in the 12 round when he thought he was gonna cruise

          if wilder finds the deal good for him and takes it im all for him....but be prepared for him to turn it down....NOT because he doesnt want to fight...but because hes not going to sell his soul to DAZN and anything tied to hearn....

          both sides can work together to make this deal from their own sides...it shouldnt be hard...but DAZN doesnt want RISK...they want guarantees they have the winner or else they risk losking alot in their AJ investment

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            #15
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.
            What the **** man? Thats racist.

            I still dont know why you care? Wilder isnt contracted to Showtime. DAZN is offering him 3 fights, 1st is the fight he is already planning to have and the next 2 are Joshua and Wilder has demanded 2 fights against Joshua. After that he can do as he pleases, im sure DAZN will offer him another deal if he wins but he dont have to take it he can take him and all his belts back to Showtime. And he will be paid more for all 3 fights than Haymon is willing to pay him.

            Oh yeah and you yourself as a fan will get all 3 fight a hell of alot cheaper than you would if Showtime was showing them. I really dont see what you are crying about. Infact i dont see what ANYBODY other than Espinoza is crying about.

            Im not even sure you know what you are crying about. I think you are a bit lost, you want to go on the attack of Joshua, Hearn, DAZN but everything is just too acceptable for you to find an opening, so you are just talking **** cuz you dont know what to do or say.
            Curt is cool, but he is part of PBC Shillery. The reason why DAZN gets hated on is because of Hearn and GBP association. The PBC shillery groups on YouTube have been attacking Hearn like nerds and also complaining about Oscar. The “racist emails” or the “transatlantic deal” said by Hearn has always get them defensive.

            Aside from all that dorky shet.

            The fact is that Espinoza is cheap. Espinoza is the reason why Wilder is going to DAZN. Not because of Hearn, simply just because DAZN has the funding to do so. Now all these PBC shill channels are acknowledging DAZN’s power and retracting their original opinions.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              if wilder finds it all acceptable than im all for it.....but its not done yet and i already know how you and the rest of the dumb UK monkeys are going to react if he says no.....youre already going to call it a duck

              the fight does more money if its in the US....if wilder signs on it will surely be in the UK....even though it makes most sense for vegas...


              i hope the fight gets made ASAP...but DAZN will only come ready if they have to carry 0 risk....

              wilders side has been willing to carry risk the whole time but hearn and DAZN are shook of their investment in AJ going caput if they get ko'd.....and it certainly didnt do it any favors when they saw fury almost get murdered in the 12 round when he thought he was gonna cruise

              if wilder finds the deal good for him and takes it im all for him....but be prepared for him to turn it down....NOT because he doesnt want to fight...but because hes not going to sell his soul to DAZN and anything tied to hearn....

              both sides can work together to make this deal from their own sides...it shouldnt be hard...but DAZN doesnt want RISK...they want guarantees they have the winner or else they risk losking alot in their AJ investment
              Well 1st of all its a 2 fight deal, 1 in the UK and 1 in the US. Is that not fair to all involved? Or do you just want 2 fights in America like they tried to do with Fury, **** fair to all involved the PBC side should get everything they want?

              2nd, if its on DAZN it doesnt make more or less its not going to be PPV. Both fighters will be offered a set amount of money for the 2 fights and i have a feeling DAZN will offer each fighter an equal amount of money.

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                #17
                Of course DAZN wants protection. They are putting up the money. Business 101.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                  Curt is cool, but he is part of PBC Shillery. The reason why DAZN gets hated on is because of Hearn and GBP association. The PBC shillery groups on YouTube have been attacking Hearn like nerds and also complaining about Oscar. The “racist emails” or the “transatlantic deal” said by Hearn has always get them defensive.

                  Aside from all that dorky shet.

                  The fact is that Espinoza is cheap. Espinoza is the reason why Wilder is going to DAZN. Not because of Hearn, simply just because DAZN has the funding to do so. Now all these PBC shill channels are acknowledging DAZN’s power and retracting their original opinions.
                  i dont watch youtoube boxing channels and im actually a white male from a new england suburb.....i dont smoke crack and im not poor....contrary to the pbc stereotype

                  i just see things for what they are

                  espinoza is NOT CHEAP....wilder gets fair US market value...hes one of the highest paid US fighters....its the US market that doesnt command big money...and the UK market is out of whack where they can pay because those guys buy anything

                  ill repeat...wilder is paid fair US market value...hes one of the highest paid US fighters

                  DAZN is only offering more because if they get wilder they have 100 percent control of the wilder/AJ fight and guaranteed options on the winner....if they didnt have that they wouldnt be offering wilder more money than what showtime is.....thats the catch "heres more than showtime will give you but now youre with us and we have 100 percent control and we have rights on the winner...we cant lose now"

                  they dont want to take on risk..willing to give wilder more up front to wipe out any risk and have 100 percent control of the fight

                  they can both get this fight done from their own side...wilders side and hearns side...it can be done....its just that eddie is tied to DAZN and they dont wanna take the risk on now that that AJ loses and their investment in him is a waste

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
                    Of course DAZN wants protection. They are putting up the money. Business 101.
                    why cant both sides make a good/fair deal from their own current positions? they can....its just eddie/DAZN dont want to....they dont want to risk losing

                    wilders side has been willing...they are confident....a deal can be done from both current positions...one that is fair and works for everyone

                    DAZN doesnt wanna waste the 50 mil theyve invested in the miller and povetkin fights without having guaranteed options on the winner

                    its obvious who is worried and who isnt....its really easy to see and very simple....wilder would be just fine with things the way they are and getting the fight done...DAZN isnt interested without having a piece of wilder though

                    DAZN has put themselves in a postion where any time they put one of their star pets in the ring they have to have options on the other guy in case he knocks their pet out and they cant lose

                    its the same thing people complain about with the pbc "they wont let their guys fight other guys" blah blah

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                      Curt is cool, but he is part of PBC Shillery. The reason why DAZN gets hated on is because of Hearn and GBP association. The PBC shillery groups on YouTube have been attacking Hearn like nerds and also complaining about Oscar. The “racist emails” or the “transatlantic deal” said by Hearn has always get them defensive.

                      Aside from all that dorky shet.

                      The fact is that Espinoza is cheap. Espinoza is the reason why Wilder is going to DAZN. Not because of Hearn, simply just because DAZN has the funding to do so. Now all these PBC shill channels are acknowledging DAZN’s power and retracting their original opinions.
                      Thats true he is, ive read many a great post from him on here but you are also right he is a PBC shill and right now they are reminding me of dying hornets in Autumn, they are on their last legs, everything they said previous is coming back to bite them hard and they are stinging anything they can hit like crazy. I feel for them i really do.

                      They will be ok in the end, this is the start of the fight we all want getting made it will get to the point where they will realize we are all winners here.

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