Comments Thread For: Wilder: I'd Definitely Rather Fight Breazeale On Fox Than PPV

[Redgloveman]

No, I'm saying he must have been in AJ's top four (in Team AJ's mind), since he CHOSE to fight him after he won the title, and all you fan-girls insist AJ only fights Top 10 opponents. Youall insisted for a long time that WIlder didn't 'deserve' a fight, nor Ortiz. The threads aren't even a year old ... you can go read , they're everywhere on here.

Re-read my comment, you'll get it eventually.

All of that said, Breazeale is another dangerous HW fighter, whether he lost to AJ or not. I'm not knocking him. Beating him, for anyone is a good win. Period. There are no bums in boxing, just challenges. Some are better than others.

You do get that time moves forward, right?

I’ll accept that Breazeale was in AJ’s top 4 opponents at one point. In fact, he was AJ’s best opponent at one point... the point when AJ actually fought him. But that was a long time ago now.

The Wilder fanatics are crazy

[Jax teller]

Whomp-whomp-whomp! You're embarrassed for you, you can't be embarrassed for me. You fan-girls kept saying for a year that Ortiz & Wilder didn't 'deserve' an AJ fight. I've responded for a year that Breazeale, Takam, and Parker didn't 'deserve' fights either by your criteria. Breazeale is a mandatory and a much more EXPERIENCED fighter now than when AJ fought him. AJ CHOSE to fight him, the WBC is forcing Deontay. End of class ...

Takam was mando and Parker was unification and Breazeale was a nothing fight but still a step up unless you want to count him as AJ's 7th best win under Martin. When did I say Wilder doesn't deserve the AJ fight at all loony boy? Also I stated Breazeale was a mando so Wilder fighting him is not what I'm criticising, if could read you'd know that, just the numbers show how much more of a bum beater Wilder is to AJ.

AJ 16 fight novice - Wilder 41 Veteran

AJ 6th best win after next fight if he wins (23 fights)

Wilder 2nd best win if he wins (42 fights)

Why did you go full ******?

[Redgloveman]

Hearn did say that look on IFL TV.

I already provided a link with a time stamp.

I wouldn’t call myself a fanatic on either side, and I like to think I only weigh in on this stuff when there’s something obvious to be said. So it pisses me off when someone calls me a liar because what I said doesn’t fit their brain-washed agenda.

I provided stone-cold proof of something which this Scipio flat-out denied ever happened (calling me a liar in the process). Maybe he’ll open his eyes just a tiny bit now or maybe even admit that he was wrong, but I doubt it. The guy is clearly too far gone into his own view of the world to be even remotely objective.

[Jax teller]

Its true for boxing and that's what we are discussing. Canelo GGG 2 was negotiated fully before contracts were drawn and sent for signature. Just like Wilder Fury was.

I didn't attempt to change the timeline or defend anything. I just stated facts regarding when Hearn mentioned 40% to the media.

That's if the terms are debatable Wilders team stated they wanted 100% control of the show so when they won't meet you and won't send terms, what do you ask for for more info on what you're gonna have to do for the money?

[Jax teller]

I already provided a link with a time stamp.

I wouldn’t call myself a fanatic on either side, and I like to think I only weigh in on this stuff when there’s something obvious to be said. So it pisses me off when someone calls me a liar because what I said doesn’t fit their brain-washed agenda.

I provided stone-cold proof of something which this Scipio flat-out denied ever happened (calling me a liar in the process). Maybe he’ll open his eyes just a tiny bit now or maybe even admit that he was wrong, but I doubt it. The guy is clearly too far gone into his own view of the world to be even remotely objective.

These guys try so hard to force the blame to fall on one side they change timelines, quotes, facts and just refuse to give in when they're wrong. Prime example is how they excuse Finkel not attending the meeting as it was a waste of time due to Hearn but Finkel still did everything to make the fight happen apperently, how delusional can you get?

Also ironic him calling people a liar especially when he comes up with his magic figures constantly.

[Redgloveman]

Its true for boxing and that's what we are discussing. Canelo GGG 2 was negotiated fully before contracts were drawn and sent for signature. Just like Wilder Fury was.

I didn't attempt to change the timeline or defend anything. I just stated facts regarding when Hearn mentioned 40% to the media.

Draft contracts are always sent. Until a contract is approved it is a draft contract by its very nature, and it won’t be approved until it has been looked over by a lawyer acting for the other party to the contract. Even if all terms were agreed prior to drafting, the lawyer acting for the other party would still need to check the wording etc.

[Ake-Dawg]

That's if the terms are debatable Wilders team stated they wanted 100% control of the show so when they won't meet you and won't send terms, what do you ask for for more info on what you're gonna have to do for the money?

That proved to not be the case as Hearn received additional information such that their final decision was "we would rather fight in the UK". As for the terms, they had the terms, just didn't have fine print.

[Jax teller]

That proved to not be the case as Hearn received additional information such that their final decision was "we would rather fight in the UK". As for the terms, they had the terms, just didn't have fine print.

What was this additional information and where are the sources?

I don't remember this and I can't find it, does it even exist?

[Ake-Dawg]

Draft contracts are always sent. Until a contract is approved it is a draft contract by its very nature, and it won’t be approved until it has been looked over by a lawyer acting for the other party to the contract. Even if all terms were agreed prior to drafting, the lawyer acting for the other party would still need to check the wording etc.

That's true, but principals don't negotiate by sending contracts back and forth. As you indicated in a previous post of yours, the draft contract is developed based upon the agreed-upon terms. To me, some believe that negotiations are kicked off by sending a draft contract with terms that haven't been agreed upon.

[Ake-Dawg]

What was this additional information and where are the sources?

I don't remember this and I can't find it, does it even exist?

This was a direct quote from AJ.


“It’s the first time I’ve ever had issues on the financial side for a fight. Let’s say for instance tat $50 million we spoke about. Listen, it’s a hell of a lot of money and an honor to even have that number thrown at me. But when you dissected it and what it was, it was kind of like a rights fee–we own you for this amount of money. The issue that I had is that I’ve got long-standing contracts in place and certain partnerships. So you may put that money forward and think you own me 100% but you may only own 50%, so that makes their 50 worth 25%.”