Was Bob Arum right about Showtime boxing?

[KTFOKING]

DAZN would give him more than 60 mil I bet.

See, that's a whole another topic. If you are to say well if he can, he should get out of SHO and take DAZN's deal for say 80M, then sure. But no one willingly gives up any network deal of this sort.

I do wonder if DAZN goes after PBC hard in three-four years when the SHO/FOX deals are up. Do they want to just completely control the boxing landscape or will they just simply not have enough dates for PBC/Matchroom/GBP/etc? At that point are they even investing as much in boxing when they will be in the hunt for say NFL or NBA rights? That is still yet to be determined.

But as of now? It makes ZERO sense to ditch SHO. Like I said, let's let it play out and see what they do in the 2nd half of the year when the first half of FOX's schedule is done with.

[Pigeons]

Boxing doesn't belong on premium subscription cable channels. It belongs on sports networks. ESPN/ABC, FS1/FOX seem the most invested.

[mrlopez]

I agree. Espinoza has no fighters on exclusive contracts to Showtime. He is basically operating at the whim of Al Haymon.

And the reason HBO cut ties with haymon. He was raping them for money. Now hes basically doing the same with sho by putting most of his better fights on fox. It's only a matter of time imo. Haymon/Pbc is going to find out the hard way that once sho is out of the boxing game, that fox WONT save him.

[mrlopez]

See, that's a whole another topic. If you are to say well if he can, he should get out of SHO and take DAZN's deal for say 80M, then sure. But no one willingly gives up any network deal of this sort.

I do wonder if DAZN goes after PBC hard in three-four years when the SHO/FOX deals are up. Do they want to just completely control the boxing landscape or will they just simply not have enough dates for PBC/Matchroom/GBP/etc? At that point are they even investing as much in boxing when they will be in the hunt for say NFL or NBA rights? That is still yet to be determined.

But as of now? It makes ZERO sense to ditch SHO. Like I said, let's let it play out and see what they do in the 2nd half of the year when the first half of FOX's schedule is done with.

I have a feeling that boxing will only be between DAZN and ESPN.

[KTFOKING]

I have a feeling that boxing will only be between DAZN and ESPN.

Possibly, but don't think FOX goes anywhere. The PBC numbers are on par with what the UFC was doing late in their contract and they aren't paying nearly as much. But maybe FOX may want exclusive rights to PBC shows after their deal is done?

I don't know, but as streaming becomes more of the norm, live sports is super valuable. Boxing is getting more love than ever before with these network deals partly due to that.

[Randall Cunning]

I have a feeling that boxing will only be between DAZN and ESPN.

I think boxing will come down to something that aint boxing. The key here is where the main sports rights go. From a UK perspective Sky Sports arent going to last long if DAZN muscle in and take Premier League rights. What happens to ESPN if they start losing rights to major sports. This is unchartered territories were headed into

[Madison Boxing]

Yep and im delighted. Haymon had a near monopoly on american boxing and has done absolutely nothing with it. Good riddance to Showtime and pbc.

[Randall Cunning]

Boxing doesn't belong on premium subscription cable channels. It belongs on sports networks. ESPN/ABC, FS1/FOX seem the most invested.

Its advertisement that makes those money. If they start losing the sports that companies want to advertise on they to are headed into a risky situation

[sicko]

Maintaining a certain Budget does NOT mean they're going out of business! They're locked in with PBC for the next 3-4 years. I know some fans are hoping all fighters end up on DAZN, PBC, or ESPN and the rest just goes away but that is not even realistic because it is too many Professional Boxers for that to ever happen

So I don't see Showtime going away they will just Show what they can afford which is still penalty of quality match ups to show because the PBC Roster is stacked especially at 147 and 154. Still have Pacquiao, still have a great relationship with Mayweather, probably reserving part of the budget just in case he does return. Also doing a GREAT Job building up new talent and next generation starts like Boots Ennis, Devin Haney and Clarrisa Shields. Showtime will be FINE! HOWEVER, I do think they need to utilize CBS MORE to promote their Fights!

[STREET CLEANER]

Showtime just got to get online with everybody else. They are established so they just have to work the better viewing format.