Dillian Whyte & Joe Joyce both whoop Old Man Luis Ortiz!

[El Ondeado]

Ortiz looked away past it against a C level talent in Hammer. Joyce stops him in 8 rds & Whyte outboxes Ortiz.

[REDEEMER]

Ortiz maybe could still out box whyte ? But Ortiz cant do much with joyce really. Joyce is a real top fighter that only a select few can deal with, you need a good engine to defeat him if you are undersized. Whyte likes staying in pocket to much for me to confidently pick him over a Joyce as well.

[Mammoth]

Whyte could land a big shot maybe but he could never outbox Ortiz. Joyce is trash and doesn't have a chance.

[4truth]

Sure, that's why Whyte has avoided Ortiz and Joyce's trainer admitted that Joyce wasn't ready for Ortiz.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Whyte could land a big shot maybe but he could never outbox Ortiz. Joyce is trash and doesn't have a chance.

this 100%...

[Mammoth]

Sure, that's why Whyte has avoided Ortiz and Joyce's trainer admitted that Joyce wasn't ready for Ortiz.

Lol. No need for this thread continue after this post.....

[Phenom]

Waiting on the WBC to order Ortiz v Whyte and if Dillian or toprank pull out this time drop him from the ranking

[KingKrypton]

Joe Joyce is an Abel Sanchez fighter, so he is learning the Golovkin defense. The Pillsbury Doughboy Bermaine Stiverne was landing counter shots on him, if those came from a real hitter like Dillian Whyte or Luis Ortiz, he'll be in trouble.

[REDEEMER]

Joe Joyce is an Abel Sanchez fighter, so he is learning the Golovkin defense. The Pillsbury Doughboy Bermaine Stiverne was landing counter shots on him, if those came from a real hitter like Dillian Whyte or Luis Ortiz, he'll be in trouble.

Stiverne has a much better counter right hand then either Whyte or Ortiz whos a power lefty and outside counter puncher. Joyce is a terrible match up for Ortiz and Whyte may beat him but its doubtful without a good right hand at mid range which he lacks.

[boliodogs]

I think Whyte can beat Ortiz but if Joyce fought Ortiz next I would pick Ortiz to beat him. Joyce is slow and not hard to hit. Ortiz has real power and accuracy especially in his straight left and he has a good right jab.