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  • Scipio2009
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    So basically you don't think Spence vs Pacquiao happens next at all?

    I'm feeling like thats the most likely next Manny fight regardless of Porter vs Ugas. Obviously Spence has to win doe.

    Also idk about all those PPV fights your predicting. Ugas ain't fighting NOBODY in a PPV main event. That's f#cking nuts & lighting money on fire for Showtime or Fox.

    Anything with Manny will be a PPV for sure doe. Spence, Thurman or Porter although I agree Porter is a longshot for Manny.
    Nope.

    Manny's not going to be chomping at the bit to fight Spence unless he absolutely has to or it's a fight that's set to clean up at the box office.

    Of the possible fights, if I had to rank them, Pacquiao's choice is likely Mikey [smallest of the bunch], Thurman [rustiest of the bunch and least on form], Spence, Ugas [least marketable of the bunch], Porter [crudest of the bunch, imo] (Pacquiao and Porter are allegedly close friends with extensive work together. If you ignore/doubt the extent of the relationship, Porter moves to being the third option in front of Spence).

    $20m to fight Broner, $20m to fight Thurman (he's at least two camps away from being all the way sharp again), and then a blow-off fight against Spence for a really nice payday.

    If Spence-Mikey does what I think FOX can get it to do, Errol Spence Jr likely never fights on regular FOX (Spence PPVs may get re-aired on FS1 the week after). Ugas as WBC champion, is even too high-profile for Spence to fight on just regular FOX.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #12
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      So basically you don't think Spence vs Pacquiao happens next at all?

      I'm feeling like thats the most likely next Manny fight regardless of Porter vs Ugas. Obviously Spence has to win doe.

      Also idk about all those PPV fights your predicting. Ugas ain't fighting NOBODY in a PPV main event. That's f#cking nuts & lighting money on fire for Showtime or Fox.

      Anything with Manny will be a PPV for sure doe. Spence, Thurman or Porter although I agree Porter is a longshot for Manny.

      Pacquiao's PPV, Wilder is basically PPV now/soon, SpenceJr is on the cusp, and Mikey is near viable too (English/Spanish speaking, handsome guy, big enough to fight 140, aggressively skilled, fearless).

      Danny Garcia is likely the next guy on the pecking order (welterweight, English/Spanish/urban, handsome, Latino, aggressive) and Tank has a chance

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      • SHOOTALLCLOWNS
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        #13
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        These next two weeks are clutch because they set up the year at 147.

        Porter-Ugas, Spence-Mikey

        Winners:
        -PS > Thurman-Pacquiao (SHOPPV); Spence-Porter (FOXPPV)
        -PM > Pacquiao-Garcia (SHOPPV); Thurman-Porter 2 (FOXPPV)
        -US > Thurman-Pacquiao (SHOPPV); Spence-Ugas (FOXPPV)
        -UM > Pacquiao-Garcia (SHOPPV); Thurman-Ugas (FOXPPV, likely the weakest of the potential PPV offerings)
        pac isn't fighting anyone of those guys.

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        • SHOOTALLCLOWNS
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          #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Obviously nothing but he's still got the best WW resume outside of old Manny.



          Thats a passing of the torch fight. Manny is a legend. Spence needs that rub however competitive the fight may or may not be. A Manny W adds value to Spence's name with casuals in a way Thurman or Porter can't.



          Problem is Porter isn't anywhere near as effective as Spence is with his aggression. Porter is just in front of cats stepping on their toes throwing punches from too close so they got no power on them. He smothers his own best work.
          I don't think manny is interested in passing the torch to any of these guys at this stage in his career. its clear he's looking for the mega payday and spence thurman and porter are not it. I also don't think a win over spence would be that big for his career considering that spence would be the heavy favorite and pac is old now pacman mania is not what it used to be I mean look at bradley and horn they both have wins against Pacquiao and that did not turn them into major house hold names.

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          • SHOOTALLCLOWNS
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            #15
            how are the talks with manny and thurman progressing? its been real quiet. I think manny will end up fighting collazo or berto next just a hunch!

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            • R_Walken
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              #16
              Good move

              Thurman one of the best in the sport with a microphone in his face , makes sense since he loaned Porter his WBC strap and will take it back to its rightful owner later this year or early 2020

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              • Steven Mccowan
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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Really?

                That's the least appealing fight for Spence to me.

                Give me Spence vs Manny or Spence vs Thurman. Spence vs Porter is a distant 3rd among big fight PBC options.

                All Porter gots for Spence is aggression & Spence gots much better timing. Spence will walk Porter into sh^t all night. Might even stop him mid to late. Don't see that fight as very competitive.

                Granted at this point I'd love to see Spence in with anyone with a name, but I think Spence fighting & beating Manny or Thurman next insures any fight is makeable from then on cuz Spence becomes the money guy at WW.
                Lol little Manny done got beat by bigger horn and Spence already fighting small guy. Porters team been asking for this fight and been told Spence looking another direction...Porter has the ability to beat anyone at 47 and Spence hasn't proved ****. Let's not talk ourselves outta meaningful fights for LW fights

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                • AdonisCreed
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                  #18
                  Rather see Thurman vs pac and Porter vs Spence and Crawford vs Danny Garcia they got history.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SHOOTALLCLOWNS
                    I don't think manny is interested in passing the torch to any of these guys at this stage in his career. its clear he's looking for the mega payday and spence thurman and porter are not it.
                    Of course thats not Manny's POV of the situation. And sure he's looking for that Floyd payday but til Floyd calls its not happening & maybe Floyd doesnt call at all.

                    And Bradley didn't get no Manny rub cuz he didn't f#cking win. I'd argue the same for Horn. Granted that Horn fight was close but the ref was letting Horn mug Manny so idk that that counts either. Although I would argue Horn got some rub off that fight. He got the Bud fight, he got some weird ass Aussie Super Fight vs Mundine + his name increased in value quite a bit.

                    If Spence can Marquez Manny thats gonna legitimize Spence to casual fans in a way no other viable fight could. Thats kinda like his young Floyd Gatti fight one could say. Floyd was a huge favorite over Gatti but that W put Floyd on the map with a lot of casuals.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                      Porters team been asking for this fight and been told Spence looking another direction...Porter has the ability to beat anyone at 47
                      Porter coulda HAD Spence. They choose Danny. Now Porter looking for him doe....okkkkkkaaaaaay.

                      I'd tell Porter to eat a **** too now. Spence is on the higher ground now & Porter is his least appealing option upside-wise. Manny is a legend. And Thurman beat Porter already. When Porter had the better view he didn't want nothing to do with giving Spence a shot.

                      And sh^t no one is unbeatable & no one has a 0% chance to beat another guy at this level, but Spence vs Porter is a 80/20 fight Spence's way. I'm not sure Porter beats Manny.

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