Tyson Fury vs Luis Ortiz

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #21
    Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
    LMAO. Whyte is about a million times better than Ortiz.
    Terrible post, red K worthy.

    Whyte isn't half the fighter Ortiz is. Ortiz does everything better. Both lose to Fury because no one beats Fury from any era, nevermind this one.

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    • rickJen
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      #22
      Fury needs to consider taking this fight.

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      • 15 Rounds again
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        #23
        Originally posted by LoadedWraps
        Terrible post, red K worthy.

        Whyte isn't half the fighter Ortiz is. Ortiz does everything better. Both lose to Fury because no one beats Fury from any era, nevermind this one.
        Hey dude, it's called an opinion.
        In your opinion Fury is amazing. Whyte would likely beat him and AJ would end him. Even a b level hw like Wilder almost got the job done. At least Wilder tried, he lost but he gave it a good effort

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          #24
          Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
          Hey dude, it's called an opinion.
          In your opinion Fury is amazing. Whyte would likely beat him and AJ would end him. Even a b level hw like Wilder almost got the job done. At least Wilder tried, he lost but he gave it a good effort
          Problem is, I can back up my opinion with both facts and boxing knowledge, you can support either of them winning with nothing.

          There is no reason to favor Whyte or AJ over Fury, and the onus is on you to defend those ridiculous claims, considering Fury is the man to beat in the division, and the lineal champion.

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            #25
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            Fury should win but Ortiz could win by KO. Ortiz almost knocked Wilder out and he could KO Fury since I think Wilder has a better chin than Fury. Fury was dropped hard for a 7 count by average puncher Cunningham.
            Wilder couldn't get Fury out of there as a bigger puncher, but Ortiz can?

            Ortiz doesn't put all his weight behind his punches nor wind them up the way Wilder does. He counters with short shots so the power is nowhere near the same.

            Fury is just too long and too good a boxer to lose to someone like Ortiz. Ortiz would have very little to counter. Especially when Fury is feinting the life out of him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
              It’s a total mismatch where Ortiz gets schooled.

              Easy fight for Fury
              That's how I see it too, that's why it's a waste of time.
              I don't think a slower Ortiz can deal with too much movement,
              disengaging, then sudden burst of effective punches Tyson throws in between.
              No way Ortiz can't get caught and stopped.

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                #27
                Originally posted by davef
                you have to consider Ortiz is in that group of AJ wilder and fury as the top 4 in the division (maybe whyte in there too or just outside) so any of them facing each other is what i would consider a good fight
                What do you base this on? Who has Ortiz beat to be top 4? Fair enough, he wobbled Wilder, but that doesn't change the fact that he's beaten nobody of note.

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                  #28
                  all i know is


                  id like to see one of the other top HWs fight ortiz...i dont care who thinks who would win or who wins....just wanna see fury or AJ step up and give us an idea of what ortiz is....i mean that makes sense right? some think its a good win for wilder..others think its overrated.....so lets have an idea before ortiz really is 47

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                    #29
                    If it really were an easy fight for Fury, why isn’t the fight happening? Surely the fight would draw more interest than the Hammer fight and Ortiz would be up for it no doubt.
                    Yeah, I’m thinking not so easy.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by redmish
                      What do you base this on? Who has Ortiz beat to be top 4? Fair enough, he wobbled Wilder, but that doesn't change the fact that he's beaten nobody of note.
                      well he hasn't lost to anyone outside of the ones i mentioned has he so he is clearly a step ahead of the rest of fighters in the division

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