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  • _Rexy_
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    #91
    Originally posted by The plunger man
    klitchcko would have neutralised rudduck ...he was powerful but limited and he losses proved that ..prime for prime klitchcko beats ruddock 9 times out of 10.
    Joshua beat klitchcko in his 19th pro which again is ahead of Lewis who faced ruddock on his 22nd fight..
    Here you are trying to compare a fighter who is not even 50% into his resume to fighter who retired at the age of 38...Lewis was great and one of my favourites but at the stage of there careers Joshua more than matches him.
    I hope wilder has the balls to face Joshua because I actually want Joshua to body bag him now
    I never said anything about prime for prime though. I was asked a question and I answered it.

    Originally posted by Fabes88
    So you rate razor Ruddock higher than klitchko?
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Prime for Prime? No.

    a 29 year old Ruddock who just went 12 rounds with Mike Tyson and narrowly lost on the cards? Compared to a 41 year old Klit who hadn't fought in 18 months and just got shutout on the cards? Yes.
    Originally posted by Jax teller
    Do you think that Ruddock would have beat that Klitschko then?
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Yes.

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    • MUNG
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      #92
      i think joshua is doing pretty good overall, hes fought some good guys and has done his job well, unlike wilder who had a chance at klit and didnt take it and only recently come to life and should really have an L on his record as he couldnt beat a semi retired fat drunk just back in the sport and had to rely on hometown officials to bail him out. Fury wanted this win over wilder as a ***el in his crown and he was jobbed, im not surprised he has decided to go another direction, let wilder stew a bit, he deserves to

      but this joshua wilder thing, is joshua still insisting on a flat fee!!! wtf is wrong with them, seriously they are trying to put the floyd mayweather blueprint on this fight and are getting totally carried away, joshua is probably trying to wait for wilder to get old and then call him out, its disgraceful stuff, they even offered parker a %, its a total joke, lennox is right and he would say it to joshuas face too, not good look for joshua and its getting worse, his fans will abandon him soon if he doesnt get real on the wilder deal

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      • millcitymauler
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        #93
        Originally posted by Marvlus Marv
        Yep, AJ thinks the great Lennox is a poosay. Unbelievable.
        Whats really unbelievable are some of these posts by his super-fans. It’s bordering on cult-ish.

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        • McNulty
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          #94
          Originally posted by _Rexy_
          I was thinking the same thing the other day, there’s only about 5 people I can talk boxing with, and 20 trolls on my ignore with new alts popping up daily.
          I literally just counted by ignore list and it's exactly 250. You got some work to do Rexy.

          I feel the same way, there is a literal handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.

          I'm making a decision soon about if I'm staying and if I'm staying it's going to be in a different capacity.

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          • Jax teller
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            #95
            Originally posted by thack
            Pove nearly forty , Wlad over forty and Whyte over rated .and these are Joshua's best wins to date!
            That's still the best out there and it's still early on in his career the defining fights don't happen till later for pretty much all the greats.

            Wilder hasn't got any better wins with Ortiz being an unknown and nearly 40

            Fury got a slightly better Klitschko and that's it.

            Also who else is he supposed to have fought there hasn't been any young person considered on that notable level apart from maybe Wilder which seems to be a difficult fight to make whoever you want to blame (Fury hasn't been around to fight, don't forget that). Parker was supposed to be decent until AJ beat him.

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            • peplz
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              #96
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              You're trying too hard and in the process, missing the most basic and obvious point. If it was someone like Price, he wouldn't have any cred. Lewis has walked the walk. If you don't get how that works then I guess I won't be able to explain it to you.
              No you won't be able to explain it because, like Lennox Lewis who can't explain his views either, you have no true facts to back up any of what he has said.

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              • MastaBlasta
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                #97
                Originally posted by lakerz
                Doing so little?unified the division after just 22 fights?what a dumb comment
                The division is NOT unified, Wilder has the WBC belt.

                The current/rising class (AJ, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Whyte, Miller, Parker, Usyk, Dubois, Breazeale, Joyce, Pulev, Kownacki, Fa, Ajagba, and others) holds a lot of PROMISE that there will be matchups between serious, skilled, dedicated, tough athletes ... reminiscent of the Ali/Holmes/Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis era's. None of these current guys have really been tested yet, nor had to overcome serious adversity. Until they do, they are all neophytes and apprentices. Most previous eras had a strong contingent of veterans that could take you out in a routine fight, i.e. every big fight WASN'T a PPV/Streamed championship ... it was just a Saturday afternoon fight. We haven't had that strong veteran group for many years at HW.

                AJ has benefitted from this, he is king of the neophytes almost (Wilder belt still out there). When Lewis came up there were tough fighters all over, and it took a lot longer to get fights at the top of the division. Lots of adversity to overcome along the way. If Lewis had walked into the situation AJ has, no doubt Lewis would have already challenged all of the top 5 in the division. Lewis worked through all of the fights, adversity, and challenges and GOT IT DONE. Period. This is why Lewis 'seems' to be hard on AJ (he really isn't, he's just NOT fan-girling like so many ARE).

                AJ still is dancing around the best fights out there with his contemporaries (Klit and Povetkin are leftover from the previous classes). AJ holds a lot of potential, and may get it done in the end, we shall see. Due to the situation he really has been gifted fame, fortune, and titles without having to do much, so far (i.e. NO ADVERSITY). The next four or five years will force the cream to rise to the top from this class of known and unknown boxers. We will see how AJ does when adversity comes his way.

                I think he, Wilder, and Fury all have a real chance of being ATG's, but time will tell. It may well be someone not on the radar at the moment.

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                • Vadrigar.
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  What a fking mental midget Joshua is...
                  He pulled the two favorite cards that idiots always go to when they can't articulate a retort;
                  "he's jealous"
                  and
                  "he wouldn't say it to my face"

                  Lewis earned the right to criticize anyone he wants. If Joshua ever comes close to his level, then he'll earn that right too.
                  Well said, Joshua is a snowflake.

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                  • lion33lit
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                    #99
                    "Whatever route he's taking" is supposed to be supported by Lennox?? Even if negotiations play out in BULLY greedy fashion with memorable quotes from BOTH Barry ("Anthony Joshua is better than Lennox Lewis was at this stage of his career"/IFL TV concerning his 8th fight) & Eddie ("we have a guy who is making all of this money, and can continue doing so, in risk free fights"..concerning giving Wilder a better payday for the fight)

                    "I'm sure he's got good people around him" is supposed to be Lennoxs take on the matter because Joshua determines thats "positivity"?? "If he needs my support I'm there" even if its the goal of Joshua and his team to critisize and compare in condescending fashion Lennoxs career against his own (on youtube)??

                    So Lennox is "envious" & "jealous" if he believes Joshuas 'team' is stalling &/orducking the Joshua fight?? And Lennox will see things differently if they meet up "face to face"?! Is "breaking my records doing better than me" a FACT Lennox has to acknowledge regarding comparing their careers(??) with the needed dispositon to ALWAYS say "nice positive things" about Joshua, referring to his career as "better"?!? What if Lennox believes otherwise - is he supposed to be hypocritical in order to please your highness POSH-****e at ALL costs?!? WOW! Talk about a pampered spoiled brat

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                    • lion33lit
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                      The division is NOT unified, Wilder has the WBC belt.

                      If Lewis had walked into the situation AJ has, no doubt Lewis would have already challenged all of the top 5 in the division. Lewis worked through all of the fights, adversity, and challenges and GOT IT DONE. Period. This is why Lewis 'seems' to be hard on AJ (he really isn't, he's just NOT fan-girling like so many ARE).
                      I think you hit it on the nail here. Joshua opened his mouth (regarding the Wilder fight) only AFTER Hearn finished with his traditional promotional posturing & posing. Everyone wondered why Joshua didn't simply burst (with a sense of pride or indignation)) in the midst of it all - and say (or imply at least), "get me the damn fight so I can break this guy in half & shut his mouth!"....Instead, Joshua squeaks that Hearn runs the show or says NOTHING at all, ..then when negotiations END(?) Joshuas ALL OVER youtube talkin' tough, saying he needs only 3rnds to demolish Wilder.

                      Lennox was ALWAYS on the scene in less dramatic fashion, with an announcement out of nowhere he was going to fight so & so!! Lennox was more pedestrian and still is, in contrast AJ LOVES photo shoots and being in front of a camera. You can also sense AJ has a burning compelling desire to star in toothpaste commercials

                      Like you inferred, Lennox is actually being cordial, there wouldnt have been a PEEP out of Lennox if Wilder & AJ was going for #2 (a rematch). Lennox woulda now been talkin' "strategy" that took place in the ring, basically pointing out flaws & strengths to improve on in both men..... Now?? He's gotta point out that AJ needs to get a YOUNG PRIME Wilder in the ring for a LEGACY building fight(!), not PAST PRIME or part time fighters looking for a quick buck.

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