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Last edited by NachoMan; 03-04-2019, 04:44 PM.
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostThe only thing Shook was Wilders resume once again ,this time with a unofficial L, that everyone will know is an actual L .
Last two fights a read like this.
1. Ortiz : Known to be upper 40's close to 50 failing a pre fight physical and goes in and Wilders saved by the bell . Escapes that one by seconds and wins because an aged fighter gassed. Also needed extra time between rounds he was rattled. Maybe SHOOK ? lol
2. Fury : Out of boxing 3 years with 2 fights with guys not remotely resembling live bodies. lost over 100 pounds just to get back in the ring months prior and still won.
3 . ?????? Cant wait for this one! This looks like a very bad omen is the third one a charm since Wilder having stepped up in almost 40 fights ? closer and closer to losing isn't he ?
Oh, you must mean the invitation to the canvas that the slick southpaw eventually visited after putting up such a VALIANT effort(??) - against the skinny kid overcoming the flu?? You mean that same skinny kid FIGHTING BACK with the CHAMPION mentality that CHAMPIONS usually possess??...I couldnt help but feel for the skillful hardworking Cuban with over 400 amateur fights!
The NEXT reading? Didnt I give u that in my last post??..Oh, u must mean, the NEXT BUM? Who has Tyson (who had the 44lb weight advantage in the fight) decided to fight right after ABSORBING shots from a 212lb anorexic bird legged feather?? It'll LIKELY be a dude named Frederick who works in the bra section of Pantys R Us. ..Tyson is gonna RUN FREE into the night with his tap tap feather me plenty "win" like a bonafide bobblehead CHICKEN, while Bob & Warren plan more ESCAPE ROUTES!!
Your WEAK attempts at trying to discredit Wilder shows your intense need at groupie love, you sound like a drunk Poshua fan in need of onother one of his posters to put on your now limited wall space. Wilder is the REAL DEAL, he has the mentality and desire of a CHAMPION!!, a champion WILLING to fight ANYBODY ANYWHERE at ANY TIME...even if loses!!....WOW!!! WHATTA CHAMP!!!! They don't make em' like that any more
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Originally posted by lion33lit View PostLol..."Last two fights read like this"?? Like what? Wilder BLASTING and TKOing a dejected dribbling Ortiz kneeling before him in utter shock, bewilderment and AMAZEMENT??
Oh, you must mean the invitation to the canvas that the slick southpaw eventually visited after putting up such a VALIANT effort(??) - against the skinny kid overcoming the flu?? You mean that same skinny kid FIGHTING BACK with the CHAMPION mentality that CHAMPIONS usually possess??...I couldnt help but feel for the skillful hardworking Cuban with over 400 amateur fights!
The NEXT reading? Didnt I give u that in my last post??..Oh, u must mean, the NEXT BUM? Who has Tyson (who had the 44lb weight advantage in the fight) decided to fight right after ABSORBING shots from a 212lb anorexic bird legged feather?? It'll LIKELY be a dude named Frederick who works in the bra section of Pantys R Us. ..Tyson is gonna RUN FREE into the night with his tap tap feather me plenty "win" like a bonafide bobblehead CHICKEN, while Bob & Warren plan more ESCAPE ROUTES!!
Your WEAK attempts at trying to discredit Wilder shows your intense need at groupie love, you sound like a drunk Poshua fan in need of onother one of his posters to put on your now limited wall space. Wilder is the REAL DEAL, he has the mentality and desire of a CHAMPION!!, a champion WILLING to fight ANYBODY ANYWHERE at ANY TIME...even if loses!!....WOW!!! WHATTA CHAMP!!!! They don't make em' like that any moreLast edited by CharlieStewart; 03-04-2019, 07:37 PM.
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Originally posted by JWHardin View PostThere needs to be a rematch. I look at it like this; Fury won by decision. Wilder won by KO. Both are correct depending on who you are, and how you look at it.
I would have given Fury a slight edge for the decision, but only landing one more punch per round is not a landslide like some say.
No one has ever been able to give an example of a similar situation where a ref has NOT waved it off when a guy was clearly out through half the count.
Settle it in the ring.
A lot wrong here.
If you score the fight objectively and responsibly, Fury ends up ahead every time, knockdowns accounted for.
He lands more than one punch more a round, we can watch it and score it together on our next NSB radio show bosshogg and myself will spin up. Compubox ifs flawed.
If we want to bring up "similar situations", make sure they are ALSO similar in that the ref clearly stated how he would respond if any of them appeared to be hurt / go down, with each of them individually in the dressing room prior to the fight. This was aired, there is no way around this irrefutable fact. He was consistent and professional, and there was nothing wrong with his actions.
A rematch is in order because it was a great fight, and because the actual victor didn't get to leave with his belt, not because Wilder "almost won".
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostIt's called judging. You use judgement. There is no right or wrong, only opinion. Just like Wilder was subject to the judgement of Reiss, Fury was subject to the judgement of the two judges that didn't think he won.
Whereas scoring the fight to Fury shows you know what you're doing. Fury won 8 of the 12 rounds. It was an easy fight to score. Fury landed more scoring shots, so should have got the decision. Wilder did not win nor draw that fight. The same way Holyfield didn't win nor draw in his fight with Lewis. American corruption is what got in the way. Just as it does most of the time. But it is funny to read you saying there is no right or wrong when scoring fights. Maybe you should read the rules that have been around for over a century. There very much is a right way to score a fight.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostWhat is the point in reminding you that Wilder's side offered AJ a guaranteed $85 ****-ing million for two fights?? None, of course, because you have already dug in and picked your side on this matter. Nobody in the history of boxing, of all sports, has EVER been offered a better deal than what AJ got from Wilder's side.
Hearn just made a fool out of Espinozer. He's asking him to put out this 3 page document that he says Wilder sent but all we see is nothingness. Just like it's always been when it's about that coward Deontay.
There's big offers for Wilder on the table. The coward either takes it, or he doesn't. But don't keep on claiming that AJ is the one who doesn't want the fight when it's clear he is the one who wants it. That coward Deontay is the one who doesn't. He, nor his team ever did want the fight. That has been made clear to anyone who isn't ****ed up in the head.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View PostWhat Reis did was within the rules of boxing. He gave him the 10 count. Had Fury not made it up, the fight would have been waved. Fury got up though, so it's a moot point. Only Americans who are bitter at seeing their joke "Champ" lose to a guy who had been away for 3 years doing drink and drugs and was completely obese, are complaining.
Whereas scoring the fight to Fury shows you know what you're doing. Fury won 8 of the 12 rounds. It was an easy fight to score. Fury landed more scoring shots, so should have got the decision. Wilder did not win nor draw that fight. The same way Holyfield didn't win nor draw in his fight with Lewis. American corruption is what got in the way. Just as it does most of the time. But it is funny to read you saying there is no right or wrong when scoring fights. Maybe you should read the rules that have been around for over a century. There very much is a right way to score a fight.
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
A lot wrong here.
If you score the fight objectively and responsibly, Fury ends up ahead every time, knockdowns accounted for.
He lands more than one punch more a round, we can watch it and score it together on our next NSB radio show bosshogg and myself will spin up. Compubox ifs flawed.
If we want to bring up "similar situations", make sure they are ALSO similar in that the ref clearly stated how he would respond if any of them appeared to be hurt / go down, with each of them individually in the dressing room prior to the fight. This was aired, there is no way around this irrefutable fact. He was consistent and professional, and there was nothing wrong with his actions.
A rematch is in order because it was a great fight, and because the actual victor didn't get to leave with his belt, not because Wilder "almost won".
Compubox is always "flawed" if you don't agree with it.
The ref's say basically the same thing for every fight. It's like you are trying to say this ref said he will give extra time to these guys if knocked down? LMAO
Like I said, no one can give a similar example of a fighter getting knocked out through the count of five when Fury's eyes opened and the fight being allowed to continue. Kneeling down yelling the count hoping he will wake up? I'm surprised he didn't have smelling salts with him as well. smh
Those are facts. Now the chicken**** Fury saying he might give Seferi a rematch instead because Wilder isn't well enough known in his own country? Talk about a lame excuse.
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