"Old School Training" is a thing of the past, right?

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  • Golden Boi 360
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    #1

    "Old School Training" is a thing of the past, right?

    I believe the days of "no weight lifting" and just running, sparring, bag work have come to an end.

    I'd say the vast majority of top amateur and pro boxers are all using modern strength and condition programs.

    Mikey Garcia started a new training program for his fight with Spence. Before that all he would do is bag, pad, running, jump rope and sparring.

    Floyd trained old school but late in his career I'd see him using some weight machines and other modern techniques like cryotherapy.

    Manny Pacquiao might be the last guy to train "old school".
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    Does training like Rocky = training old school? Or is that just autist school? I'm asking because Hughie Fury started punching animal caracasses and chopping wood. Wood chopping is good training tbf), but that chit he did with the animal caracasses was gay and ******ed.

    Mikey kind of needs the strength training as he's moving up in weight and is putting on lean mass quicker.

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    • BillyBoxing
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      #3
      Originally posted by Golden Boi 360
      I believe the days of "no weight lifting" and just running, sparring, bag work have come to an end.

      I'd say the vast majority of top amateur and pro boxers are all using modern strength and condition programs.

      Mikey Garcia started a new training program for his fight with Spence. Before that all he would do is bag, pad, running, jump rope and sparring.

      Floyd trained old school but late in his career I'd see him using some weight machines and other modern techniques like cryotherapy.

      Manny Pacquiao might be the last guy to train "old school".
      Seems like yes.

      Let's have a look to able Sanchez stable which trains old school.

      They all looked slow like snails and unathletic when they stepped Vs elite.
      See Ryan Vs Josh, GGG Vs nelo, Murat Vs usyk.

      They really lost athletically IMO, looked amateurish in terms of speed and movements while skills are ok...

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      • Douwe_Geluk
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        #4
        Weighttraining and other programms are nowadays important. The sport has evolved to that and that is good.

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        • Armchairhero
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          #5
          Train like an athlete, perform like an athlete....

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          • McNulty
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            #6
            Originally posted by Golden Boi 360
            I believe the days of "no weight lifting" and just running, sparring, bag work have come to an end.

            I'd say the vast majority of top amateur and pro boxers are all using modern strength and condition programs.

            Mikey Garcia started a new training program for his fight with Spence. Before that all he would do is bag, pad, running, jump rope and sparring.

            Floyd trained old school but late in his career I'd see him using some weight machines and other modern techniques like cryotherapy.

            Manny Pacquiao might be the last guy to train "old school".
            Your examples contradict your point.

            Garcia is only doing this to move up two weight classes though. He's been pro 13 years which means he's got 1-3 years left before it's a wrap. Probably more on the 3 due to not taking a lot of damage over the years and not having a lot of hard fights. Either way, he's 31 and you're out of prime at 33.

            Mikey spent the vast majority of his career with tradtional Boxing training.

            Same for Floyd.

            Boxers been using weights forever. A lot of gyms keep secrets with shadowboxing routines with weights. You see Floyd throwing them 5's and 10's around. Thats original Boxing from the day. Lifting a weight here and there (probably to move up in weight) and some cryowhatever late in his career is contradictory to your point. His last few fights been for show anyway.

            Mosely said years ago that strength trainers in Boxing doesn't work. He broke it down pretty good why too. Look at RJJ, he used Shilstone for 1 fight. Hardly a career regime.

            Who's even using strength trainers anymore? Ariza is practically out of the sport now.

            Which brings me to Manny. Pacquiao been using strength trainers for eons but you say he's all traditional? Your entire post is backwards, weird.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #7
              Mexican Boxing is still old school, same as Puerto Ricans.

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              • Richard Hamilton
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                Power, speed and explosion is mostly genetic. Fast twitch muscle.

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                • Idunnoshet
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  Seems like yes.

                  Let's have a look to able Sanchez stable which trains old school.

                  They all looked slow like snails and unathletic when they stepped Vs elite.
                  See Ryan Vs Josh, GGG Vs nelo, Murat Vs usyk.

                  They really lost athletically IMO, looked amateurish in terms of speed and movements while skills are ok...
                  Don't forget about Carlos Cuadras .
                  He went with Able for a camp and Lost that fight .
                  Word was Able only had him working on power with weights and stuff . Even though Cuadras is more of a Boxer type . He ended up leaving Able after that one fight.

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                  • Zaryu
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                    For the most part old school training is better, but, modern recovery methods should be used by everybody that has the resources to. However, I think the ideal training regime for a boxer is likely a mix of somewhere around 80% old school training with 20% modern training. But I would imagine this would vary from fighter to fighter.

                    I don't think weight training is as important for boxing as a lot of people assume, but strength training is important, and that will usually include weight training or other forms of resistance training. But the point would be to increase strength from camp to camp (fight to fight) and not make boxing training camps into strength or power lifting camps. Boxing specific training and conditioning (focusing on stamina) are more important in my opinion.

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