got to give props to kovalev and golovkin

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  • turnedup
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    #21
    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
    Hell no. **** GGG. He's a ****ing fraud and coward. Did he give Jacobs a rematch? 97G got his big payday then all that bull**** he used to spout about honor, glory, belts, courage, etc. all went out the window.

    97G has been exposed inside and outside the ring. That fraud doesn't deserve props.
    He went on to fight a better and bigger fighter...did he not? He also said he'd have no problem fighting Jacobs again but honestly Jacobs himself wouldn't have passed up fighting Canelo had he gotten the decision while in that man's shoes?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      those dudes had legit gripes that they could have been given the decision in their first fights with ward and canelo respectively

      they went back at it ASAP......their fans never had to say "kovalev don't owe ward nothin" or "lil g don't owe canelo nothin"

      can u imagine a kovalev fan post kov/ward 1 "kovalev is the unbeaten 175 champ and top 5 p4p he don't need to prove anything to anyone we know he won and he don't owe ward squat"

      then again...neither kovalev or canelo almost had their heads detached from their necks and were staring up at lights on their backs.....so maybe that's why they weren't so afraid
      Yeah, give them props for taking the rematch and getting ripped off even more. That's the way it should be.

      Instead of you advertising courage, you're in fact advertising American corruption."We didn't get you the first time whilst cheating, but we'll damn sure get you the second time round". You're also advertising arrogance. Arrogance that allows you to blow over what cheating scum bags you lot really are and thinking you have the right to rip fighters off. And if they don't allow you scum bags to rip them off, you smear them and obsess over them like ****ing stalkers.

      So well done, Curt. Well done indeed.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        it really would have been a shame to see fury get stopped a few minutes after it looked like he wanted to quit....or get his face lit up for 12 rounds and then run out of the ring before giving in interview with bruises all over his mug

        fury made the right decision...im guessing he watched those fights and saw the pain and humiliation suffered by those guys and decided he wanted to wait a lil while
        Fury wanted to quit now did he? Ah, this has crushed you hasn't it? Your fantasies and delusions won't hide your bitterness. But please continue trying to convince us otherwise anyway.

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #24
          Ive gotta give Tyson Fury credit and Deontay Wilder needs to give Tyson Fury credit. Fury has opened the door for Deontay to make some MANS MONEY. Rather than the pittance that he gets from the PBC. But we cant magically grow some balls and give them to Finkel or Haymon as they are scared of little weasel Espinoza and even though Wilder isnt contracted to Showtime it seems he HAS TO fight on Showtime.

          But then it seems the real big boys of the division, Joshua and Fury have already stepped over Wilder, they were bigger in the UK than he was in the States and now its only a matter of time before they are bigger than him in the US too, I think Joshua already is.

          So Fury can help himself get a fair fight by NOT fighting on a PBC card, and all he ever asked for was a fair fight, and he can help Wilder make more money. But Wilder and his team dont seem to jump on opportunities, they just had the chance to face Joshua for undisputed in a fight deal which takes the 2nd fight to America and for a hell of lot more money than hes earning now too and not only did they not accept an offer they didnt even try to negotiate, not only did they not try to negotiate they completely froze Hearn and Joshua out by ignoring them and their emails and phone calls and offers and contracts.

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          • Real King Kong
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            #25
            Originally posted by Madison boxing
            And kovalev and golovkin both got cheated again in the rematches (at the very least they were controversial) so maybe fury has got the right idea
            Nah...while kovalev did get stopped on a low blow without question, he was on his way to losing the fight. He already had began to crack mentally. Ggg on the other hand, beat canelo up in the second half of the rematch and probably should have gotten the decision...close fight tho.

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            • Bjl12
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              #26
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              News flash for you. The majority of neutral views thought GGG edged out the rematch and lots of viewers thought Kovalev got ***ed by low blows and a bias, incompetent referee. I agree that Fury seems to want no part of a rematch with Wilder now or later because most of the world thinks he won the first fight so why risk a dangerous rematch. I just don't like how you made your point at the expense of Kovalev and GGG.
              The problem with Gennady fans is that they say Gennady got robbed in the first fight and the second fight. They also hold Mr. in high esteem as if he's an ATG MW.

              Eyeonthering average fan cards scored the 1st fight a draw (6-6) and the second fight a win for GGG (7-5). Mainstream media and professional boxers/trainers suggested Gennady won the 1st fight. Meanwhile mainstream media also had GGG winning the rematch, but professional boxers/trainers had Canelo winning.

              No matter how you slice it both fights were close. I've been open to discussing the fight for a long time and have almost made threads with .gifs and clips to support my beliefs, but there are no rational GGG fans open to logical discussion. Personally I had it 6-6 (first fight could've been 7-5 either way) and 7-5 for Canelo in the rematch although I could see 6-6...could not see 7-5 for GGG though

              Regardless of how you felt about the Gennady and Canelo fights...Gennady is NOT an ATG MW. He went life and death with Danny Jacobs and Canelo Alvarez. I'm a huge Canelo fan and a casual fan of Danny Jacobs, but neither are remotely close to ATG MW talents.

              You don't fight 5 champions (past, current, future) in a 40 fight professional career and go life and death with your only challenges...and require to pick judges and referee for one those three fights...only to complain about the judges YOU PICKED...

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