Pac my P4P #1...but who is my #2?

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  • Easy-E
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    #61
    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
    This man is far from delusional. I kind of know Cliff from other boxing websites. You just need to let him grow on you. Instead of assuming he is crazy, it would be fair to hold your opinion until you see Parra. Morel was a VERY good fighter who WAS cracking SOME people's to 10 p4p list. Therefore this Parra kid might have something special. We should reserve judgement until we have seen what Cliff has seen.

    As for PBF's resume, it was very good from 130-135. Recently it has not been. There's only so long you can stagnate and expect to remain number 1.
    I have seen Para, one fight and a few clips, and yes, he is impressive.
    HOWEVER, having him number 2 on your p4p list and having Floyd number 6 is delusional.
    Its that simple.
    However, if he admitted that he had Para at 2 and Floyd at 6 just to make a statement, than I can understand that.
    However, these are his actual p4p rankings.
    Hence me calling him delusional.

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    • miron_lang
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      #62
      IMO PBF is still #1 but PAC is catching up very fast.

      if PBF doesnt fight and beat any of these fighters this year. (some might not be available but thats the way it goes)

      Margarito
      Mosley
      Cotto
      Hatton
      DLH


      + a win by PAC over EM. PAC should be #1

      BTW these 3 boxing sites thinks PAC is already #1





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      • miron_lang
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        #63
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        How in the world is Calzaghe not on that list? And Parra of all people is number 2. How is Pacquiao number one? How is Pacquiao and Parra above Winky Wright? Corrales above Castillo? I don't care what Castillo did at a weigh-in, he knocked Corrales the **** out and Corrales has not fought since who knows when. Barrera above Mayweather? A retired Hopkins should not even be on the list.

        1. because he thinks PAC is better than PBF lb 4 lb

        2. because he thinks PAC and Parra is better than Winky lb 4 lb


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        lb 4 lb is all about opinion, and IMO his opinion is within range


        plus he's not alone






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        Last edited by miron_lang; 07-12-2006, 02:47 AM.

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        • kg21mvp
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          #64
          if PBF doent fight this year he could be no.2 p4p below pac.. if he beats EM

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          • OptimusWolf
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            #65
            Ok, p4p lists are about more than who would win at a given weight. Its also about accomplishment and personal views on the abilities of the fighters in question.

            That said, even though I don't think PAC would beat Mayweather at 130, how about at 108, or 122 or 126? Why should the bout take place at Mayweathers best weight. I have Mayweather above Pacman because of the win vs Judah, who was a top opponent IMO. But if he doesn't beat another p4p top 25 opponent soon, he'll lose that spot on my list. I think the Pacman/morales bout does little to change things, Morales is done.

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            • PRboxingfan
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              #66
              Originally posted by OptimusWolf
              Ok, p4p lists are about more than who would win at a given weight. Its also about accomplishment and personal views on the abilities of the fighters in question.

              That said, even though I don't think PAC would beat Mayweather at 130, how about at 108, or 122 or 126? Why should the bout take place at Mayweathers best weight. I have Mayweather above Pacman because of the win vs Judah, who was a top opponent IMO. But if he doesn't beat another p4p top 25 opponent soon, he'll lose that spot on my list. I think the Pacman/morales bout does little to change things, Morales is done.
              Since they both fought at 130, it's the natural place to pit them against each other. Pac's best weight is 126, IMHO. He's good at 130 but he'd wipe the map at 126.

              However, I still think that the best Pac, the one who assassinated the baby assassin, would still lose to the Mayweather who beat Chico, Genaro Hernandez, and Jesus Chavez.

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              • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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                #67
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                IMO PBF is still #1 but PAC is catching up very fast.

                if PBF doesnt fight and beat any of these fighters this year. (some might not be available but thats the way it goes)

                Margarito
                Mosley
                Cotto
                Hatton
                DLH


                + a win by PAC over EM. PAC should be #1

                BTW these 3 boxing sites thinks PAC is already #1





                http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=7536&more=1
                Most of these sites are only putting Pac as number one in order to suck up to Pinoy users in order to get an extra kick of traffic. You go to some websites and they have more articles about Pacquiao than Philboxing, it's pretty obvious what they are trying to do.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  Most of these sites are only putting Pac as number one in order to suck up to Pinoy users in order to get an extra kick of traffic. You go to some websites and they have more articles about Pacquiao than Philboxing, it's pretty obvious what they are trying to do.
                  LOL, as much I hate to admit, I agree. Even some respected writers from major boxing websites have joined Pacland(Manny Pacquiao's official website) to promote their articles and interviews to Pinoy users to gain traffic. Manny's website is the busiest boxing website for any particular fighter, and that speaks volumes.

                  Hmmn...no wonder Pinoy Lounge was created in the front page

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                  • diavoli
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by PRboxingfan
                    Since they both fought at 130, it's the natural place to pit them against each other. Pac's best weight is 126, IMHO. He's good at 130 but he'd wipe the map at 126.

                    However, I still think that the best Pac, the one who assassinated the baby assassin, would still lose to the Mayweather who beat Chico, Genaro Hernandez, and Jesus Chavez.
                    PAC vs PBF at 130 I think would be 50/50
                    Mayweather would murder pack at 135

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      Most of these sites are only putting Pac as number one in order to suck up to Pinoy users in order to get an extra kick of traffic. You go to some websites and they have more articles about Pacquiao than Philboxing, it's pretty obvious what they are trying to do.

                      Yikes!! Really? Wow.

                      No comment.

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