Pac my P4P #1...but who is my #2?

[miron_lang]

Pac has been dominated before, and ya i know it was early in his career, but someone with Floyds speed, defense, crisp punching and a host of other attributes can expose the weakness in Pac.

Whos that?

Torrecampo - 1 hit( jaw or body shot )
Medgeon - Body shot. ( dehydrated himself but still came in @ 113 )


He wasnt dominated. he lost...

IN YOUR OPINION PBF WILL DOMINATE PAC
IN MY OPINION PBF WILL NOT DOMITE PAC ( I think he will win though)

I thin thats FAIR enough right???

But lb 4 lb
--- This is not reality just pure imagination as in Floyd will definately beat Antonio Tarver 100 out of 100 fights ---

PAC can beat PBF - if we negate size PBF cant take PAC best combos





*** HEY what happened??? whats with the double posts? i click the button only once??????

[Dirt E Gomez]

If JMM could box circles around Pac and make him look foolish at more than a few points during the fight.... how would Floyd not?

[Bogler]

If JMM could box circles around Pac and make him look foolish at more than a few points during the fight.... how would Floyd not?

i guess you stopped watching boxing after 2004?

[miron_lang]

You seemed to have convieniently forgot Fashan 3k battery so you could put MAB there...
BUT
Based on names, yeah obviously Pac's but Floyd absolutly dominated all of those opponents, while Pac's drew and lost to JMM and Morales.
Not to mention he Decisioned Larios, who jumped up 2 weight classes to mean him.
That being said, as of late, Pacs opposition is better as of late.
However, Floyds dominance of various weightclasses, undefeated record, past victories against All time greats and supreme skills are still deserving of a #1 p4p spot.

Not to mention he has beaten 9 world champion to Pac's 5.

Well im not question PBF @ # 1 lb 4 lb

what im not agreeing with is the statement of yours that PBF will DOMINATE Pac.


with PACs speed and POWER coupled with PBF's average punching power. i cant see domination either way. PBF wins because of size

if PAC doesnt respect your best shot he will surely land a couple that will get respect

[Dirt E Gomez]

i guess you stopped watching boxing after 2004?

That'd be nice if I did. I might be able to stretch it and say Lewis is still the HW champ.

Or are you refering about how Pac has improved his game? It hasn't improved enough to outbox somebody like PBF.

[Easy-E]

Whos that?

Torrecampo - 1 hit( jaw or body shot )
Medgeon - Body shot. ( dehydrated himself but still came in @ 113 )


He wasnt dominated. he lost...

IN YOUR OPINION PBF WILL DOMINATE PAC
IN MY OPINION PBF WILL NOT DOMITE PAC ( I think he will win though)

But lb 4 lb
--- This is not reality just pure imagination as in Floyd will definately beat Antonio Tarver 100 out of 100 fights ---

PAC can beat PBF - if we negate size PBF cant take PAC best comb

I was referring to Medgeon, where he lost the preceeding rounds, but in the grand scheme, that unimportant.
But I didnt word what I was trying to say correctly.
I feel as though it would be a good, competitive fight, but Floyd would dominate on the SCORECARDS.

[Super_Lightweight]

The JMM fight was a while back, and Pac has obviously improved since then. Furthermore, you are not taking into consideration that this is a p4p mythical matchup, meaning Pac would be just as big as PBF for the fight. That is a big factor.

This is what is wrong with hero worship...I give Floyd credit as WORLD champ at 130, which is debateable to some because he didn't face Freitas and Casa...I think Corrales was enough. And I say in a P4P sense Floyd-Parra is a great fight (not that Floyd would get whooped or blown out) and that's a bad thing for you. I cite Castillo to point out that Floyd CAN be challenged. On my list, any fighter who won a legit lineal title gets props for that and has other belts listed as alphabet. I did the same for Pac. Keep coming. I'm starting to make you look bad.

I agree. PBF, you are always telling people not to overreact, but that's exactly what you are doing right now. It's not like you. You should respect his opinion as a man who's seen fights around the globe. If you question his list, you can do it much more politely. No need to attack him the way you did. Ya dig?

Considering Pacquiao's recent resume, it is very defendable to have him at number 1. Of course PBF dominated his opponets; that's what was supposed to do. But he wasn't beating the caliber of fighters that Pac has.

[Easy-E]

i guess you stopped watching boxing after 2004?

I havent seen Pac look particulalry effective against a true boxer.
Although his wins have been quite impressive.

[Easy-E]

The JMM fight was a while back, and Pac has obviously improved since then. Furthermore, you are not taking into consideration that this is a p4p mythical matchup, meaning Pac would be just as big as PBF for the fight. That is a big factor.



I agree. PBF, you are always telling people not to overreact, but that's exactly what you are doing right now. It's not like you. You should respect his opinion as a man who's seen fights around the globe. If you question his list, you can do it much more politely. No need to attack him the way you did. Ya dig?

Considering Pacquiao's recent resume, it is very defendable to have him at number 1. Of course PBF dominated his opponets; that's what was supposed to do. But he wasn't beating the caliber of fighters that Pac has.

Weight wise, yes, but not height and reach wise.

I respect the opinions of almost every poster on this board, but this guy is just so delusional and so fustrating in the way he writes and argues, that I cant help but overreact.

But he has fought those caliber of fighters throughout his entire career and still remained at the top.
That too is a big factor.

[Super_Lightweight]

This man is far from delusional. I kind of know Cliff from other boxing websites. You just need to let him grow on you. Instead of assuming he is crazy, it would be fair to hold your opinion until you see Parra. Morel was a VERY good fighter who WAS cracking SOME people's to 10 p4p list. Therefore this Parra kid might have something special. We should reserve judgement until we have seen what Cliff has seen.

As for PBF's resume, it was very good from 130-135. Recently it has not been. There's only so long you can stagnate and expect to remain number 1.