imma call wilders hands "espn plus"

[Ray*]

showtime put the show on....wilder is the wbc champ and was the a-side the 1st time in a fight he didn't lose

showtime has done the two highest grossing ppvs ever....what has espn+ done? a khan/Crawford ppv that will be lucky to break 250k?

if fury was the man you all make him out to be wilder would have had to go to the UK to do the fight in the first place

The Lineal champ doesn’t mean anything anymore?

[Ray*]

Wilder really wanted the rematch and did his part by offering Fury a 50/50 split and three neutral judges. Fury loves that most fans think he clearly won the 1st fight and wants to leave it like that rather than risk getting KOed in a rematch. To ask Wilder to go to ESPN for 5 fights just to maybe fight Fury someday is unreasonable. If team Fury really wanted the rematch then ESPN would offer Wilder good money to immediately rematch Fury on ESPN with no further obligations to ESPN. I doubt the rematch ever happens because Fury does not want it to happen.

There is NO way Wilder should or would go to ESPN for five fights. And 50/50 is a great offer from Team Wilder to Fury.

[DaNeutral.]

showtime put the show on....wilder is the wbc champ and was the a-side the 1st time in a fight he didn't lose

showtime has done the two highest grossing ppvs ever....what has espn+ done? a khan/Crawford ppv that will be lucky to break 250k?

if fury was the man you all make him out to be wilder would have had to go to the UK to do the fight in the first place

Ohhhhh So A sides exist again now do they? Joshua is a massive A side over Wilder but you say 50-50 is fair. And i see you are also going to ignore the fact Wilder CAN fight on ESPN who im sure will be able to pay more than Showtime. Showtime have done the 2 highest grossing fights ever???? Did either of them involve Deontay Wilder?

Him and Fury didnt even make over 10 million. The very worst offer from Joshua early last year was for more than that. Wilder is not a mega star, the numbers he does keeps proving that and then you fans tell us that he is.

Fury went to America out of respect for the A side, that fight would of made more money in the UK. But Deontay refused to have the respect to take a rematch to the UK, and for the rematch he wanted a rematch clause, yes a 3rd fight and they wanted that in America.

Wilder will not fight unless its on a Haymon production and on Showtime sports. He is just as tied up as Joshua and Fury is now except the 2 British fighters have made sure to be paid alot of money for their TV contracts, Dontay just does it cuz Haymon tells him so.

[Curt Henning]

Nope Mayweather thought boxers how to do it, De la Hoya before him. Yes Haymon is a great adviser but Mayweather even without a proper education knows the business side of boxing, he knows the PPV, ticketing, undercard payments to fighters etc because he run his own show. I doubt Wilder even the percentage of tax that he has to pay.

There are some boxers when you see them and you listen to them, you know they have the business side hat on... Ward for example.

who do u think taught floyd all of that? LOL

floyd learned business from al haymon man....its common knowledge.....

yeah boxers today are trying to follow the blueprint through floyd cause they can relate to a fighter more easily...make no mistake floyd will tell u al taught him all about it....about how to get a cut of everything....al was a concert/tour promoter....he taught floyd about tickets and merchandise and all of that

[Ray*]

who do u think taught floyd all of that? LOL

floyd learned business from al haymon man....its common knowledge.....

yeah boxers today are trying to follow the blueprint through floyd cause they can relate to a fighter more easily...make no mistake floyd will tell u al taught him all about it....about how to get a cut of everything....al was a concert/tour promoter....he taught floyd about tickets and merchandise and all of that

Then he definitely need to do double session with Wilder.

[Curt Henning]

Ohhhhh So A sides exist again now do they? Joshua is a massive A side over Wilder but you say 50-50 is fair. And i see you are also going to ignore the fact Wilder CAN fight on ESPN who im sure will be able to pay more than Showtime. Showtime have done the 2 highest grossing fights ever???? Did either of them involve Deontay Wilder?

Him and Fury didnt even make over 10 million. The very worst offer from Joshua early last year was for more than that. Wilder is not a mega star, the numbers he does keeps proving that and then you fans tell us that he is.

Fury went to America out of respect for the A side, that fight would of made more money in the UK. But Deontay refused to have the respect to take a rematch to the UK, and for the rematch he wanted a rematch clause, yes a 3rd fight and they wanted that in America.

Wilder will not fight unless its on a Haymon production and on Showtime sports. He is just as tied up as Joshua and Fury is now except the 2 British fighters have made sure to be paid alot of money for their TV contracts, Dontay just does it cuz Haymon tells him so.

lolol...theres so much garbage here it actually smells

[Curt Henning]

Then he definitely need to do double session with Wilder.

what makes you say that?

wilder is guided by two of the best in the business...finkel and haymon

what do u expect every african american fighter to be a megastar like floyd? do you actually think AJ would be the same star if he were born american as he is now? lol

[Ray*]

what makes you say that?

wilder is guided by two of the best in the business...finkel and haymon

what do u expect every african american fighter to be a megastar like floyd? do you actually think AJ would be the same star if he were born american as he is now? lol

Maybe thats why he needs two of the best to guide his career.