imma call wilders hands "espn plus"

[Curt Henning]

Absolutely

If he doesn’t drop Fury we know he 100% loses the decision

Look at the scorecards wilder got lucky in the 12th and barely held onto his belt

yeah if he doesn't drop fury he does lose a decision

but he did drop fury..twice...it happened...we cant delete it

and the 2nd knockdown may have legit injured fury to the point that hes afraid to fight wilder again...at least for the time being

[DaNeutral.]

Team Wilder should of been a little bit kinder to the man they underpaid, used to raise their fighters profile, robbed him on the cards then demanded he go through it all again while telling him its only fair. Wilder is free to fight Fury on ESPN. Finkel is Wilders manager and neither are contracted to Showtime so i dont see what the problem is.

Arum has sent an offer, Wilder may not like it, so refuse it and tell them what Wilder wants. NEGOTIATE. Or shall we just get straight to the truth and admit Deontay Wilder and his handlers are unwilling to fight anybody when the fight is not under their control in the venue and city they want and on Showtime.

[DaNeutral.]

yeah if he doesn't drop fury he does lose a decision

but he did drop fury..twice...it happened...we cant delete it

and the 2nd knockdown may have legit injured fury to the point that hes afraid to fight wilder again...at least for the time being

It didnt even injured Fury enough to stop him
out boxing Wilder for the rest of the round he got knocked down in.

[Curt Henning]

Team Wilder should of been a little bit kinder to the man they underpaid, used to raise their fighters profile, robbed him on the cards then demanded he go through it all again while telling him its only fair. Wilder is free to fight Fury on ESPN. Finkel is Wilders manager and neither are contracted to Showtime so i dont see what the problem is.

Arum has sent an offer, Wilder may not like it, so refuse it and tell them what Wilder wants. NEGOTIATE. Or shall we just get straight to the truth and admit Deontay Wilder and his handlers are unwilling to fight anybody when the fight is not under their control in the venue and city they want and on Showtime.

showtime put the show on....wilder is the wbc champ and was the a-side the 1st time in a fight he didn't lose

showtime has done the two highest grossing ppvs ever....what has espn+ done? a khan/Crawford ppv that will be lucky to break 250k?

if fury was the man you all make him out to be wilder would have had to go to the UK to do the fight in the first place

[Curt Henning]

It didnt even injured Fury enough to stop him
out boxing Wilder for the rest of the round he got knocked down in.

you make it sound like outboxing wilder is an achievement.....other threads you will tell us wilder stinks and gets outboxed by everyone lol

[pretty ste]

So getting dropped twice and almost knocked out is outclassing now wow you called that schooling what has happen to this generation of boxing fans

[Curt Henning]

So getting dropped twice and almost knocked out is outclassing now wow you called that schooling what has happen to this generation of boxing fans

wasn't it great when George foreman tweeted a pic of him on the floor against ali and said "I was outboxing him for most of the fight...this is me sitting down laughing"?

[boliodogs]

wilders right hand and left hand made fury run into the arms of an app that boasts two major other stars who have A. sold 60k ppvs b. never headlined their own ppv

but were supposed to tell wilder to jump over there even though his showtime has put on the two highest grossing ppvs ever?

absurd...absolute lunacy

how much do you venture espn is going to pay fury to fight Bryant Jennings on espn+ this summer?

id like to hear some guesses and figures...ill start the bidding at 5 million

Wilder really wanted the rematch and did his part by offering Fury a 50/50 split and three neutral judges. Fury loves that most fans think he clearly won the 1st fight and wants to leave it like that rather than risk getting KOed in a rematch. To ask Wilder to go to ESPN for 5 fights just to maybe fight Fury someday is unreasonable. If team Fury really wanted the rematch then ESPN would offer Wilder good money to immediately rematch Fury on ESPN with no further obligations to ESPN. I doubt the rematch ever happens because Fury does not want it to happen.

[Curt Henning]

Wilder really wanted the rematch and did his part by offering Fury a 50/50 split and three neutral judges. Fury loves that most fans think he clearly won the 1st fight and wants to leave it like that rather than risk getting KOed in a rematch. To ask Wilder to go to ESPN for 5 fights just to maybe fight Fury someday is unreasonable. If team Fury really wanted the rematch then ESPN would offer Wilder good money to immediately rematch Fury on ESPN with no further obligations to ESPN. I doubt the rematch ever happens because Fury does not want it to happen.

that fury really is an odd duck then huh?

I mean most fans thought kovalev won against ward and most think ggg(at least that's what im told around here) beat canelo in the first match...yet neither of them feared being KO'd to the point that they rejected a rematch...jmm had a lot of people believing he beat pac 3x yet he didn't fear getting ko'd...in fact he decided to do the ko'ing himself

seems like that combo broke furys will and spirit

[Ray*]

al is the "business sense"....Floyd didn't have a lot of business sense either till al got in his ear when Floyd was with arum.....

look at how bad bob missed out on Floyd?

how many fighters have named their children after bob? I know of at least one who did for haymon

Nope Mayweather thought boxers how to do it, De la Hoya before him. Yes Haymon is a great adviser but Mayweather even without a proper education knows the business side of boxing, he knows the PPV, ticketing, undercard payments to fighters etc because he run his own show. I doubt Wilder even the percentage of tax that he has to pay.

There are some boxers when you see them and you listen to them, you know they have the business side hat on... Ward for example.