Comments Thread For: Canelo Not Ruling Out Future Fight at 175, Facing Kovalev

[Truth Serum]

Kovalev is a chinless bum.

Canelo beats his stiff ass to a pulp.

Naw... Kov Mayweathers him to death with jabs.

[Truth Serum]

Canelo is a good fighter and borderline great, but he's definitely not great and he'll never be an ATG...and I'm a Canelo fan. What is great though is his hunger and desire for greatness, which is refreshing given the bullshit some of these other fighters say..."you're on the wrong side of the street"..."can't make a fight with Bop Arum"..."Al Haymon doesn't even exist, who is he?"..."we'll fight when the time is right"...excuse, excuse, excuse

Canelo reminds me of Andre Ward except Canelo will go to YOUR backyard. America is not Canelo's home; Mexico is. Canelo fights in Texas, New York, Vegas, etc.

The biggest drawback for Canelo is he inability to distinguish himself from his opposition:

• Lara fight was close and could've gone either way, however, it was definitely NOT a robbery
• Trout fight was close and could've gone either way although the KD was probably the deciding factor
• Both GGG fights were close and could've gone either way...which is why EyeontheRing FAN scorecards were 6-6 (1st fight) and 7-5 (2nd fight). Actually EYEontheRING FANS scored the 2nd fight for GGG. Regardless of how you feel...both fights were close with several "pick 'em" rounds...suggesting otherwise means you DKSAB or are a fan with a motive
• Cotto fight was again close, but somewhat clear. Either 7-5 or even 8-4 for Canelo were both acceptable scores

https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/...s-saul-alvarez

https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/...aul-alvarez-ii

Are the scorecards for Canelo annoying? Yes. Canelo is not a promoter, judge, or referee though. He cannot control the Floyd scorecard or the GGG 1 scorecard which were both disastrous and simply bad for boxing (much like Deontay's card against Fury). I cannot fault Canelo for what is likely an inside job of his promoter or the greedy sanctioning bodies.

The other thing with Canelo is the potential PED usage. Although the general public seems very unconcerned about the possibility he used PED's this boxing community would make you think he was using IV steroids and was awaiting public execution. Many of the so-called fans on here glorify his failed tests as if it helped their bank acconts in some way?

The hard truth is Canelo was probably clean. People don't like to hear that. He never tested + before or after using random OSDT (GGG1, GGG2, Floyd, Trout, etc.), enrolled in WBC 365, took the hair follice test (at request of NSAC), tested positive in Mexico where there is a precedence of - specifically - clenbuterol in the meat, and the WADA director said his levels were "consitent with meat contamination". Crucifying Canelo over his tests with complete ignorance of available evidence again suggests a motive.

The same logic is why I firmly believe Manny Pacquiao DID use PEDs and Pacquiao fans tend to be GGG fans so it's not surprising that they clear Manny, but crucify Canelo.

Manny avoided OSDT (which is su****ious in itself) for 3-4 years...Y E A R S...saying giving blood weakened him (untrue) and that he was afraid of needles. Those were literally his reasons for not testing...what's worse is his fans not only accepted those "reasons", but vindicted him and hailed him some religious hero...and he never needed tests. The dude moved up in weight, put on mass, and retained (and possibly improved) his speed and power. That's simply not how things happen. You don't go through growth spurts at 28-29-30 years old. He cheated. Period.

All that, but Manny is beloved on these boards while Canelo is a villain. How does that make any sense?

Fun Fact #1 All boxers are tested for every fight

Fun Fact #2 Canelo popped dirty for a PED

Fun Fact #3 Manny never tested positive once in his 25+ year career

Fun Fact #4 Your motive is clear as day and are actually giving Manny mad props for his clean weight climbing ability

[icha]

Once Kov is 42 I’m sure

Bivol said he’d meet you at 168...crickets

Kovalev gonna outbox this midget easy

Is everyone crazy? Canelo isn't fighting Kovelev, not now not ever because he would get blown out. He's not even willing to fight the top 160bers. Canelo is short for a middle weight, he wouldn't beat a top 5 at 168ler not named Lemieux or Feilding.

Facts are facts....Canelo isn't fighting Kovelev, not now not ever because he would get blown out. He's not even willing to fight the top 160bers. Canelo is short for a middle weight, he wouldn't beat a top 5 at 168ler not named Lemieux or Fielding.

I stand by these immutable facts

I like Canelo but this fight never happens. He gets body bagged by Kovalev unless they drain him to some absurd extent.

This.

Kovalev has one hit power at 175. He'll never be ready for that.

RIP Canelo if it happens. Unless he is fighting a 60 years old Kovalev. lol

Kovalev boxed well against two great technical boxers Ward and Hopkins. I really don't see Canelo winning this one.

Canelo doesn't have the frame for 175 (not tall enough), he'll get KO at LHW. 160 is Alvarez's limit.

this is going to age nice ...

[DuckAdonis]

this is going to age nice ...

This was before the Yarde fight, be fair. And we don't know if Canelo is going to drain Kovalev yet

[_Rexy_]

this is going to age nice ...

Where am I wrong about Bivol offering to meet Canelo at 168 and being ignored?

[Boxing Goat]

this is going to age nice ...

I still stand by my part. If the fight gets made, Canelo is in trouble.

[icha]

Where am I wrong about Bivol offering to meet Canelo at 168 and being ignored?

nothing wrong with that, but once kovalev is 42?

[icha]

I still stand by my part. If the fight gets made, Canelo is in trouble.

fair play..

[_Rexy_]

nothing wrong with that, but once kovalev is 42?

well that was clearly an exaggeration. But I stand by my point that he's going after Kov because he's lost a step and he's beatable.

And if he does beat Kov, it's the worst thing that will happen to the division because he will NOT fight Beterbiev, Bivol or Gvozdyk

[icha]

well that was clearly an exaggeration. But I stand by my point that he's going after Kov because he's lost a step and he's beatable.

And if he does beat Kov, it's the worst thing that will happen to the division because he will NOT fight Beterbiev, Bivol or Gvozdyk

i also believe is only a one fight thing and then back to 160, but if he stays there then he needs to fight the other champs before claiming he is the best at 175... i wouldnt expect him to go straight after bivol or the others instead of kova, i mean when was the last time a fighter(let alone a superstar) went up 2 divisions for a high risk low reward fight? but at least at 160 he should fight andrade or charlo next...