Stop with the Stiverne is in great shape BS...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Oh no doubt, a prime Vitali eats him alive. But coming off that fight with Charr I felt it was way more up in the air. Vitali dominated the fight, but in highsight it was like Wladimir-Jennings or something. Vitali looked really slow, was getting hit way more than usual, etc against Charr.... who was hot garbage.

At the time, I was thinking we were going to see Vitali get hit with the kitchen sink on his way to the W in a way we hadn't seen Lennox really.... and not for any other reason than Stiverne was pretty sharp and Vitali's reflexes were gone.

Yeah I kinda get what you’re saying, Vitali was beginning to look old. I’d still expect him to clearly beat Stiverne, but I guess he could’ve caused him some trouble though

[New England]

Father time has caught up with Stiverne.

It's a bad idea to step in the ring in your 40s unless your name is Klitschko.

they get offered six figure contracts. sometimes seven. joshua opponents have made 10-15 million bucks. that's 8 figures!

so if a guy thinks either: A: i could really use this one more payday, i'll take the fight. or B: i can beat wilder. he's wide open and i can punch, and then i get joshua

then you get a fighter in his late 30's or even his 40's in the ring with a guy in his prime

[Larry the boss]

Its absolutely disgusting that a former world champion turns up in that shape. Where's his pride? It shows how poor HW was back when he won the title.

He was over 40 pounds lighter then