Wilder should take the ESPN deal

[Curt Henning]

These guys have no clue. Arum wouldn't even pay Manny $20 million to fight Crawford but he's going to pay Fury that much when Manny is still a bigger name and draw. People believe he's going to get $20 million to fight Pulev or Jennings when none of those fights will bring in that revenue.

alot of these guys will tell you money doesnt matter "we just wanna see the best fights" when it benefits them...but when fury has big money numbers thrown out there and they can say "haha fury makes more than wilder now" they love it.....but they dont really have a clue what this deal is....they like looking at the big fat number not realizing that wilder could easily make the same amount of money over the next 2-3 years too if he gets the same fights

[killakali]

You do know that Manny's contractual purses were always around the 6-8 million range right? His guarantees of 20 million came from revenue and PPV sales. Arum didn't want guarantee Manny to 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there. Manny wasn't bringing in the same money as before. But yet you believe they are going to be giving Fury a $20 million purse every fight? No fight without Wilder or Fury will give Fury $20 million, no other fights will bring in enough revenue.

u are confused. On paper manny had 20 mil guaranteed. For the commission sheet it showed a lower purse amount to pay less in sanctioning fees and taxes. No different than what Spence and garcia will show on paper next week.

Just like on paper Ruiz showed making 20k for Santa Cruz when we all know he wouldn’t fight him for that.

Never ever go by the commission report.

Now you have espn backing these deals. Don’t forget that part. There is more $ available.

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

You do know that Manny's contractual purses were always around the 6-8 million range right? His guarantees of 20 million came from revenue and PPV sales. Arum didn't want guarantee Manny to 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there. Manny wasn't bringing in the same money as before. But yet you believe they are going to be giving Fury a $20 million purse every fight? No fight without Wilder or Fury will give Fury $20 million, no other fights will bring in enough revenue.

wilder and aj will get done you can bank on it. hell there maybe an aj trilogy in there too

[Jax teller]

ive seen more than enough of both AJ and wilder

if wilder was born in the UK and had a british accent and was a UK gold medalist hed be in the same exact position as AJ....if AJ were born in america and a US bronze medalist hed be in the exact same position as wilder

its the cold hard truth

pretending otherwise is just foolish nationalism....in fact the last time a US fighter actually broke through and captivated an audience he acted like a jackass for the cameras.....AJ isnt charismatic...ive seen him...ive watched his doc before the klitschko fight on netflix...and seen many interviews with AJ....hes fairly dull

good fighter....marketable enough...but nothing special...he'd be wilder if he were american.....but keep waving your pom poms...youf inferiority complex doesnt show at all! youre hiding it so well lol

Nah mate, how is it nationlism at all I'm disputing the UKs ability to make anyone a superstar and saying it's more to do with AJs accomplishments and personality making a living as 'the humble guy' beating the big mouth like Martin, Whyte and Brezeale. People love to see the bully picking on the wrong guy its even a thing on YouTube ffs. Classic Cuck Henning trying to make it about race in someway, you're too predictable.


You're blinded by your hate for him and love for Wilder. Try saying AJ ain't special and top ten fighters don't stand a chance whilst also being the No.1 heavyweight in half the fights of Wilder who's supposed to be with TBE manager Al Haymon doesn't cut it. Fury hasn't got a gold medal and he's surpassed Wilder as well.

AJ and Wilder have two different completely different personalities Wilders got a chip on his shoulder and an attitude problem and has to talk himself up constantly.

AJ comes across extremely well in chatshows go check them out, (Graham Norton probably the most obvious examples) and his latest appearance on Sway was alright a bit corny but that ain't a bad thing.

He is also liked almost everywhere he goes he is liked. He doesn't have to be telling people he's the best because he knows he is in his own mind and it shows compared to Wilder having to talk himself up and AJ down all the time. Have you noticed AJ never talks Wilder down even when interviewers try and get him to? That's the difference.

https://youtu.be/FszP4SaGjGQ - AJ on Conan

https://youtu.be/palGYYkD3gQ - AJ in Mayweather gym

"no charisma doe"

At the end of the day your confusing ****iness with charisma.

I wouldn't even be doing this if you lot didn't feel the need to hate on everyone that ain't 'your guy' at the expense of what is actually going on in the real world.

Also the ironic thing is how you guys want to constantly remind us how much more money there is in boxing in the US compared to the UK constantly and then blame Wilders lack of success down to being American. Boxing still isn't mainstream in UK btw.

[15 Rounds again]

Deontay Wilder's patience has paid off.

At some point today, Bob Arum is going to send Wilder a massive television package, one that includes exposure, big bucks, television appearances, the type of shine that creates a superstar.

In effect, it's the deal he has bled for, the deal he has fought for, the deal that is at the end of every boxing rainbow.

CBS/Showtime has not taken care of Wilder, they have not put the same promotional might behind the WBC champion that they put behind Floyd, even when his conduct in the ring, and his amazing fight with Fury justifies it.

After that huge fight, the buzz, the surprising PPV butyrate, where the f8$k was Wilder's big deal?

Showtime dropped the ball, they took him for granted, he is a an undefeated knockout artist HW champion with a great personality, he should have already been a star.

Arum set the market with Fury, and Fury has no belts, Wilder should ask for $100 million, with a $5 million dollar bonus for every belt he unifies, including the lineal title, plus at least 30% of the PPV buy upside on big shows. lets say 5 fights, including the eventual AJ fight.

Wilder and Fury are such big commodities at this point, that they can force any HW not named AJ to fight on ESPN, so the civil war in boxing won't really matter.

I know people hate Arum, I know it would be a blow to the PBC, but Wilder has a chance to be the undisputed champion of the world, and be a star on America's most important sports network, this is a deal he CANNOT pass up, it will only help him during the eventual AJ negotiations.

Unless DAZN offers him $200 million, he HAS to take this deal, Showtime/Fox won't be able to give Wilder the type of Canelo/AJ/Fury deal he is looking for.

Wow! Delusion.
Wilder has had lots of opportunities to unify. He treated those opportunities like your home phone - he didnt even answer. Nor did he answer e mails and contractual offers put in front of his nose.
Dont you get it? He always talks about reasons why HE WONT FIGHT JOSHUA, and never about how he might, or can, or is trying to. He only said "I have enough opponents for 2 years".
These are FACTS, not Trumpisms.
Get your head out of your hoop and into reality.

[15 Rounds again]

Nah mate, how is it nationlism at all I'm disputing the UKs ability to make anyone a superstar and saying it's more to do with AJs accomplishments and personality making a living as 'the humble guy' beating the big mouth like Martin, Whyte and Brezeale. People love to see the bully picking on the wrong guy its even a thing on YouTube ffs. Classic Cuck Henning trying to make it about race in someway, you're too predictable.


You're blinded by your hate for him and love for Wilder. Try saying AJ ain't special and top ten fighters don't stand a chance whilst also being the No.1 heavyweight in half the fights of Wilder who's supposed to be with TBE manager Al Haymon doesn't cut it. Fury hasn't got a gold medal and he's surpassed Wilder as well.

AJ and Wilder have two different completely different personalities Wilders got a chip on his shoulder and an attitude problem and has to talk himself up constantly.

AJ comes across extremely well in chatshows go check them out, (Graham Norton probably the most obvious examples) and his latest appearance on Sway was alright a bit corny but that ain't a bad thing.

He is also liked almost everywhere he goes he is liked. He doesn't have to be telling people he's the best because he knows he is in his own mind and it shows compared to Wilder having to talk himself up and AJ down all the time. Have you noticed AJ never talks Wilder down even when interviewers try and get him to? That's the difference.

https://youtu.be/FszP4SaGjGQ - AJ on Conan

https://youtu.be/palGYYkD3gQ - AJ in Mayweather gym

"no charisma doe"

At the end of the day your confusing ****iness with charisma.

I wouldn't even be doing this if you lot didn't feel the need to hate on everyone that ain't 'your guy' at the expense of what is actually going on in the real world.

Also the ironic thing is how you guys want to constantly remind us how much more money there is in boxing in the US compared to the UK constantly and then blame Wilders lack of success down to being American. Boxing still isn't mainstream in UK btw.

You use words like "blinded" mate but have you ever been to the UK? Have you ever been to the home of your president, Putin in Russia?
Nope, you are absolutely a victim of the mindset that the USA is the hub of the universe, when in fact the British fans are the best in the world. When did you ever see a 20,000 fan invasion from the USA go anywhere to support a fighter? Never. You need to get out of the house mate - theres a whole world out there, enjoy.

[champion4ever]

He doesn't stand a chance of landing Wilder on ESPN because Deontay is very satisfied, happy and comfortable with his position at Showtime and the PBC.

Just the other day he said that he has enough fights lined up for the next two years with the PBC. So I don't see him clearing out anytime soon for Warren's and Arum's fools Gold at Top Rank and ESPN.

If Fury really wants the rematch and that WBC title, which he doesn't, then why don't he sign with AL Haymon and the PBC?

[jreckoning]

You use words like "blinded" mate but have you ever been to the UK? Have you ever been to the home of your president, Putin in Russia?
Nope, you are absolutely a victim of the mindset that the USA is the hub of the universe, when in fact the British fans are the best in the world. When did you ever see a 20,000 fan invasion from the USA go anywhere to support a fighter? Never. You need to get out of the house mate - theres a whole world out there, enjoy.

The bolded part is gold!

[just the facts]

he certainly made a business decision......how genius it is remains to be seen.....fury hasnt fought anyone yet and he has to fight aj and wilder in order to cash in on the number they flaunted to the press

That's what everyone doesn't seem to understand. The only way bottom line Bob recoups that kind of money is with a fight with either Wilder or Joshua. No one else can bring that kind of money. Not Whyte, not Ortiz, not Brazeale, not anyone. Add in that it's more than obvious that team Joshua ain't gonna let anyone have that big of the piece of the pie. Wilder is in better place than most here realize.

[MulaKO]

Deontay Wilder's patience has paid off.

At some point today, Bob Arum is going to send Wilder a massive television package, one that includes exposure, big bucks, television appearances, the type of shine that creates a superstar.

In effect, it's the deal he has bled for, the deal he has fought for, the deal that is at the end of every boxing rainbow.

CBS/Showtime has not taken care of Wilder, they have not put the same promotional might behind the WBC champion that they put behind Floyd, even when his conduct in the ring, and his amazing fight with Fury justifies it.

After that huge fight, the buzz, the surprising PPV butyrate, where the f8$k was Wilder's big deal?

Showtime dropped the ball, they took him for granted, he is a an undefeated knockout artist HW champion with a great personality, he should have already been a star.

Arum set the market with Fury, and Fury has no belts, Wilder should ask for $100 million, with a $5 million dollar bonus for every belt he unifies, including the lineal title, plus at least 30% of the PPV buy upside on big shows. lets say 5 fights, including the eventual AJ fight.

Wilder and Fury are such big commodities at this point, that they can force any HW not named AJ to fight on ESPN, so the civil war in boxing won't really matter.

I know people hate Arum, I know it would be a blow to the PBC, but Wilder has a chance to be the undisputed champion of the world, and be a star on America's most important sports network, this is a deal he CANNOT pass up, it will only help him during the eventual AJ negotiations.

Unless DAZN offers him $200 million, he HAS to take this deal, Showtime/Fox won't be able to give Wilder the type of Canelo/AJ/Fury deal he is looking for.

Sorry brother I stopped reading your post the minute you compared Wilder to Floyd fughin Mayweather

Before you go off your rocker , I’m no fan of Floyd , think the man is a clown with big coin , but no fughin comparison
You can’t say that , it’s just crazy

Dude Floyd is making millions from wwe style exhibition fake fughin fights
Wilder is nowhere close to that , neither is AJ or fughin Canelo who’s the horse now a days