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  • RamBoVee
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    #51
    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
    Let’s not exaggerate. Wilder knows how to shift his body in the pocket when wanting to throw his jab. Wilder did catch Fury doing this. Sluggers and punchers hardly ever position themselves like that. This means Wilder’s style is unique, and besides, Wilder knows all the fundamentals that Olympian teams endure and must know.

    What makes Wilder’s style comedic is that when he’s desperate he throws awkward punches OFF BALANCE so it seems like he can’t box or is inferior.

    Casual fans have no idea how hard it is to do followup punches. Wilder threw a straight timed right on Fury, Wilder followed up with a left. That is hard to do. It takes Ring IQ to know how the person would fall for such striking coordination.

    Wilder haters don’t give Deontay credit. He’s a smart boxer for a Heavyweight, he just has his style, and in his desperation to do KO’s in heated exchanges has served him well. Wilder never gets credit for precision. Spzilka KO was a perfect example of Wilder getting desperate with that timed right power shot.
    Yes he is Michael Grant with a pair of great hands and a strong chin. He does the work and he is learning a lot. He is a natural puncher. Just not a natural boxer. You can see he puts in work. He is winning!!

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      He literally justfought and beat him
      You must not know what literally means. he didn't just fight him and beat him. He fought him and the fight was declared a draw primarily because Fury lost the 12th round 10-8 and almost got KTFO.

      While he bravely and courageously got up from that KD and he fought a brilliant tactical fight where he outboxed Wilder for the majority of the fight, he lost 2 rounds 10-8 because of knockdowns.

      In any other situation you and others would conclude Fury is doing what he can to avoid the fight and would question if he is scared of Wilder's power. Now, because Fury is British and is the "boxer" you are coming up with an alternate narrative.

      We all just want to see the fight. Fury can do whatever he wishes but this move does more to derail the fight than it does bring it closer to fruition.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #53
        Originally posted by Madison boxing
        Hes back to being the boogeyman who noone wants to fight now. Its almost as if he didnt just get schooled by a guy who literally lost 10 stone, spent 2 years drinking and hadnt fought a heavyweight in top 100 for years, who most the forum was tipping to get ko'd early. One question do u guys truly believe the bull**** you write or are u just that desperate to hype someone that you dont care anymore? Know a lot of u are shameless enough to go along with crooked scorecards so u feel a rematch is necessary but its not, fury moves on and wilder can live off that defining win over the 'most skilled fighter in the division' in ortiz (that win was apparantly being the basis to him making short work of joshua and fury )
        How was he exposed when he almost beat the unbeaten Fury by KO?

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          #54
          Originally posted by W1LL
          If Tyson Fury can get Anthony Joshua to face him, that will be a great resume. Beat the Lineal champion in his backyard, went to America and DREW with their champion in his own country, then if he can beat AJ in Las Vegas to seal the deal... would be the real fairy tale ending. Oh and btw, Tyson Fury is a future ATG.
          I corrected your statement.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            How was he exposed when he almost beat the unbeaten Fury by KO?
            Did you forget you are on NSB, the one place in the world where winning a tougher than expected fight means you got "exposed" and now "suck".

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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Did you forget you are on NSB, the one place in the world where winning a tougher than expected fight means you got "exposed" and now "suck".
              Wilder didn't win anything here's what he lost.

              1. A fight he was supposed to win by the general public , not ONE guy on the Showtime panel of former champions picked him to lose they all shrugged it off as a a easy win for Wilder based on KNOWING Fury was out a minute .

              2. The public's perception . Even in a draw , most know he lost so it doesn't really matter . His two took a huge dive and he further did that to himself with the dozens of outlandish excuses he came out with. He's actually more of a comedian then he is a fighter which takes second to that.

              3. He lost a Joshua fight, in the process hes may lose the Fury one now to which is the only reason he ducked AJ and that was to collect two fights off Fury instead of lose one to Joshua.

              4. He lost his win streak to a guy most were calling a cherry pick. The draw breaks that stride i

              5. He's lost time. Times up! Breazeale, Fury, Joshua... Pick one I give all 3 am excellent chance defeating him. He has 2 power puncher and a guy who got him already.

              I'll give him further credit if he manages to dodge any of these guys this year and put him as the all time greatest manipulator in boxing history. I'm not even sure if he gets by Ortiz again but he's nearly 50 so?

              In the end you guys can say he didn't lose but that doesn't exactly mean much does it ?

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                #57
                It's because Tyson didn't do shit other than run out the clock and play keep away and not throw punches. He never once hurt Deontay Wilder or beat him up to the point of stopping him. Nor did he even try. It was far from a crowd pleasing performance.

                He was just largely content on winning on the fight on the scorecards; However, that herky jerky style of his backfired and bored the shit out of many; Mainly the three official judges. They were left unimpressed by his antics.

                That's why he wasn't awarded the title or the decision as they awarded the title to the man who wanted the most and that was Deontay Wilder.

                I just hope he learned his lesson. If you want to take the title away from the champion you got to go in there and take some risks and fight and not run to avoid punishment.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Wilder didn't win anything here's what he lost.

                  1. A fight he was supposed to win by the general public , not ONE guy on the Showtime panel of former champions picked him to lose they all shrugged it off as a a easy win for Wilder based on KNOWING Fury was out a minute .

                  2. The public's perception . Even in a draw , most know he lost so it doesn't really matter . His two took a huge dive and he further did that to himself with the dozens of outlandish excuses he came out with. He's actually more of a comedian then he is a fighter which takes second to that.

                  3. He lost a Joshua fight, in the process hes may lose the Fury one now to which is the only reason he ducked AJ and that was to collect two fights off Fury instead of lose one to Joshua.

                  4. He lost his win streak to a guy most were calling a cherry pick. The draw breaks that stride i

                  5. He's lost time. Times up! Breazeale, Fury, Joshua... Pick one I give all 3 am excellent chance defeating him. He has 2 power puncher and a guy who got him already.

                  I'll give him further credit if he manages to dodge any of these guys this year and put him as the all time greatest manipulator in boxing history. I'm not even sure if he gets by Ortiz again but he's nearly 50 so?

                  In the end you guys can say he didn't lose but that doesn't exactly mean much does it ?
                  Fury moved away from fighting Wilder again. His power is obviously something other top heavyweights are worried about no matter what you post. If they weren’t they’d show more willingness to fight him because his skill set isn’t the best.

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