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  • Ray*
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    #91
    Originally posted by jas
    showtime will be out of boxing soon

    they have no ppv fights anymore after pac retires


    and their ratings are very bad given the purses of the fighters on their cards
    They need to start building PPV fighters sooner rather than later, I see Team Wilder is trying to downplay this news like they didn't get played...

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    • Ake-Dawg
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      #92
      Originally posted by Fabes88
      Fair question. I would argue strongly that it established a floor on deciding if co ppvs are worth it or not based on the amount we have seen in the history of the sport. The first two co ppvs did 1.97 and 4.6 mil buys respectively. The first wilder and fury fight did about 300k. I’ll be generous and say the rematch does double even though there’s no basis for that happening, the second ward kovalev fight did less and I thought the first was entertaining, I don’t see two broadcasters as large as showtime and ESPN seeing the point in working together for the sake of 600k buys. Personally I would think they’d find it a bit embarrassing if anything.

      Secondly and most importantly wilder has no contractual obligation to showtime. So why throw a spanner in the works by insisting showtime need to be involved when there’s no legal obligation for them to be?
      Top Rank hasn't even commented as to whether they are going to put an offer together for the rematch. Why skip to Wilder better agree to fight on ESPN prematurely. Warren and Arum said more about being in control and being backed by ESPN than they did about the rematch. Heck, one of them even hinted that there was no rush to do the rematch next.

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        #93
        Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
        This kinda shoots holes into excuses as to why theres no Crawford vs Spence jr, or Thurman vs Crawford. Those fights could actually happen....
        Anyone who doesn't realize that Crawford/Spence is in full "marination" mode is either naive or a fanboy.

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        • The plunger man
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          #94
          The fight is a dud , wilder will be without an opponent and fury will fight B grade heavyweights fed to him by frank warren.
          Once again AJ rises about all the peasants

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            #95
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            Top Rank hasn't even commented as to whether they are going to put an offer together for the rematch. Why skip to Wilder better agree to fight on ESPN prematurely. Warren and Arum said more about being in control and being backed by ESPN than they did about the rematch. Heck, one of them even hinted that there was no rush to do the rematch next.
            I didn’t skip to anything was just commenting on a hypothetical situation. If it comes down to it I don’t see the need for a co ppv unless wilder feels uncomfortable fighting on another platform and I’m mature enough to understand why he may have reservations about doing so but undoubtedly the easiest way to make the fight is it happening on ESPN given that fury has a contract with them be wilder has no network ties.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              Wilder isn't signed with Showtime. So why involve them at all? That's just causing a problem.
              The problem was instigated by Fury. Wilder has a longstanding relationship with Showtime and shouldn't throw that down the drain unless they are unwilling to give him a hell of a deal as well.

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                #97
                Originally posted by MC Hammer
                The problem was instigated by Fury. Wilder has a longstanding relationship with Showtime and shouldn't throw that down the drain unless they are unwilling to give him a hell of a deal as well.
                Well they better give him a great deal, the other top two guys are making a lot of money per fight. Wilder currently doesn't unless he fights those two.

                Those two can fight peasants now and make 20million dollars plus. If Wilder fights peasants he would be making what 2/3m dollars?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Well they better give him a great deal, the other top two guys are making a lot of money per fight. Wilder currently doesn't unless he fights those two.

                  Those two can fight peasants now and make 20million dollars plus. If Wilder fights peasants he would be making what 2/3m dollars?
                  They owe him at this point but I don't know how secure the Fury deal is. I highly doubt they'd give an addict a guaranteed 20mil with no stipulations

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by MC Hammer
                    The problem was instigated by Fury. Wilder has a longstanding relationship with Showtime and shouldn't throw that down the drain unless they are unwilling to give him a hell of a deal as well.
                    So what you're saying is Fury should bend to Wilders terms again like he did in the first fight? Even though Wilder is a free agent? GTFOH.

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                      #100
                      The PBC's "other side of the street" excuse went down the toilet...fast.

                      Someone needs to tell Errol, Danny, Porter and Thruman. the "other side of the street" is ducking. No more, no less. I give Wilder credit. If ESPN were smart, they'd make sure the PBC understands that Wilder's ONLY shot at redemption means no more games. Haymon needs to allow Danny, Porter, Spence and Thurman to receive a record pay day fighting Terrance Crawford because in the end, there is no other side of the street...ALL of the PBC fighters are Network FREE.

                      Because it needed to be said

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