Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder-Fury Rematch Could Be Next, But We Don't Know

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It's time for Wilder to cut his losses because Fury doesn't want the fight. He signed with Top Rank in order to escape Wilder and to dictate the terms and conditions of a potential rematch. Of course that won't happen because after all, Wilder is the A side who doesn't owe him shit because it was a voluntary defense.

He signed with Top Rank to earn $100 million dollars, why would he avoid a guy he already beat despite only being at 70%?

He never took the Fury fight for money in the first place. He took the fight as a gift to boxing fans. It was more of a legacy fight rather than a money fight.

No, he took the Fury fight because he thought it would be an easy W and a good name on his resume, he could then claim the lineal title and thus would give him more leverage in the Joshua negotiations.

Moreover, he threw Tyson Fury a lifeline, that he didn't deserve after popping for both doping and juicing because he wanted to the giving the fans a fight they wanted to see. So I say to Hell with Tyson Fury. The ungrateful, sellout, turncoat son of a bitch.

Wilder took a gamble and he lost. You can't blame Fury for getting that paper. You have to ask yourself why the likes of ESPN won't invest in Wilder?

[JWHardin]

Because Wilder doesn't do this ever " I don't care about the money I'm about legacy"

Turns down biggest payday X 5 because it's not enough.

Accept it they all suck.

We'll see. I won't lose any sleep on whether fight fights between Wilder/Joshua/Fury get made or not. Maybe Joshua or Fury will finally fight Ortiz too? I'll be fine with that. I follow more than just heavys.

[JWHardin]

[QUOTE=SuperHanz;19523857]He signed with Top Rank to earn $100 million dollars, why would he avoid a guy he already beat despite only being at 70%?


Your opinion is fine, it just made me laugh a little. If Fury was only 70% despite training for over a year and having two fights, Thurman must have been about 35%. Being at 70% was a pre-fight excuse in case he lost, and with any other ref he would have.

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He signed with Top Rank to earn $100 million dollars, why would he avoid a guy he already beat despite only being at 70%?


Your opinion is fine, it just made me laugh a little. If Fury was only 70% despite training for over a year and having two fights, Thurman must have been about 35%. Being at 70% was a pre-fight excuse in case he lost, and with any other ref he would have.

Wilder got schooled by a man who had to lose 10 stone and beat a drug and alcohol addiction and barely had any warm up fights.

I know it's hard to accept as a Wilder fan, but it is what it is.

[JWHardin]

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Wilder got schooled by a man who had to lose 10 stone and beat a drug and alcohol addiction and barely had any warm up fights.

I know it's hard to accept as a Wilder fan, but it is what it is.

In order to "school" another guy, you have to land more than one punch more per round. Feints and missed punches don't count.

How much weight they have to lose is on them. It's a sign of a lack of discipline, not something to be used as praise like so many have. Same said for the drugs and PED cheating. Not an admirable thing to have on your resume.

[jglvz256]

what if haymon goes to hearn and they basically freeze fury out for a couple of years? i believe this move was done to piss haymon off and maybe try to strain his relations with espinoza...but they could have the last laugh if they can get together with hearn

Why are Wilder fans always wanting for someone to be frozen out?

They spent months gloating that Fury and Wilder would work together to freeze out Joshua. Now they're all hoping that Wilder and Joshua will get together and freeze out Fury. These guys really know how to nurture a grudge don't they?

[Steven Mccowan]

Make them fu.ck.ers agree to damn Crawford vs Spence fight. Lol. Maybe this opens some doors...

[Steven Mccowan]

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He signed with Top Rank to earn $100 million dollars, why would he avoid a guy he already beat despite only being at 70%?


Your opinion is fine, it just made me laugh a little. If Fury was only 70% despite training for over a year and having two fights, Thurman must have been about 35%. Being at 70% was a pre-fight excuse in case he lost, and with any other ref he would have.

Would have lost if was another ref? Lol. It's a fight and the man got up silly. Why would anyone want it to be waived off? Maybe the NFL with their sissy rules are more your speed...Wilder my favorite HW but I can't stand sissy ppl hoping for sissy decisions

[champion4ever]

He signed with Top Rank to earn $100 million dollars, why would he avoid a guy he already beat despite only being at 70%?

Hooray for him. That's partly true. However, I don't know who he is going to fight over there though because Top Rank doesn't have any titleholders, contenders or heavyweight boxers in general.

In my opinion, he would've been better off signing with the PBC since they have more heavyweight contenders challengers, titleholders and heavyweight boxers in general than Top Rank. However, the real reason he left for Top Rank is because he never wanted the rematch in the first place.

That 12th round knockdown nearly decapitated him. He thought he was dead. It put the fear of God in him. He never wants to get hit like that again in his life.

Moreover, he thought he had sustained some major head trauma and brain damage due to that head shot he absorbed from Deontay Wilder. Therefore, Fury was both traumatized and scarred by that punch; which is the cause for the rematch being canceled and for his fear of getting stopped by Wilder if the two had ever fought again.

No, he took the Fury fight because he thought it would be an easy W and a good name on his resume, he could then claim the lineal title and thus would give him more leverage in the Joshua negotiations.

That's utter Bullshit man and you know it. It's that all you British fans do is just lie?

Tyson Fury came crawling and begging on his hands and knees for a Deontay Wilder fight after he saw how Anthony Joshua both ducked and cowardly stiffed Deontay Wilder at the bargaining table. In addition, he saw how badly his country was being shamed and disgraced by AJ and requested a fight with Wilder.

Tyson Fury wanted to restore Great Britain back to its former glory and honor by saving its face, in challenging Deontay Wilder to a title bout. So no, Wilder didn't pursue Fury. Fury pursued him.

He was nowhere on Deontay's radar. By that time Tyson was a nobody and was virtually forgotten by the British boxing public.

In any case, Wilder out of the goodness of heart said yes and threw Tyson Fury a lifeline. Which was now a mistake. He gave him a charitable and voluntary defense of his WBC title which he did not earn or deserve due to his popping for doping, juicing and drug abuse.

I know that hindsight is 20/20. However, Deontay Wilder would have been much better off had he left that bum to rot on the street because he misused, abused and exploited Wilder's fame by building his name and profile on it.

Wilder took a gamble and he lost. You can't blame Fury for getting that paper. You have to ask yourself why the likes of ESPN won't invest in Wilder?

I agree. You are right. Wilder was naive and has to be more careful the next time someone wants to do him a favor because there are sharks in this business who have ulterior motives and hidden agendas like Tyson Fury who are out to do him harm. Lastly, it's obvious why Arum poured $Millions down Tyson Fury's coffers rather than Deontay Wilder's because unlike the U.K. He believes that Tyson Fury is potentially more marketable in the U.S. due to his buttermilk complexion.

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Hooray for him. That's partly true. However, I don't know who he is going to fight over there though because Top Rank doesn't have any titleholders, contenders or heavyweight boxers in general.

In my opinion, he would've been better off signing with the PBC since they have more heavyweight contenders challengers, titleholders and heavyweight boxers in general than Top Rank. However, the real reason he left for Top Rank is because he never wanted the rematch in the first place.

That 12th round knockdown nearly decapitated him. He thought he was dead. It put the fear of God in him. He never wants to get hit like that again in his life.

Moreover, he thought he had sustained some major head trauma and brain damage due to that head shot he absorbed from Deontay Wilder. Therefore, Fury was both traumatized and scarred by that punch; which is the cause for the rematch being canceled and for his fear of getting stopped by Wilder if the two had ever fought again.

That doesn't make sense, why would Fury be scared of a man he's already beaten before? As for the punch, Fury got up and won the rest of the round, so it clearly didn't hurt him that much. Like i say, Fury signed the deal to earn 100 million dollars, not because he wanted a duck a man he already took to school.

That's utter Bullshit man and you know it. It's that all you British fans do is just lie?

Tyson Fury came crawling and begging on his hands and knees for a Deontay Wilder fight after he saw how Anthony Joshua both ducked and cowardly stiffed Deontay Wilder at the bargaining table. In addition, he saw how badly his country was being shamed and disgraced by AJ and requested a fight with Wilder.

Tyson Fury wanted to restore Great Britain back to its former glory and honor by saving its face, in challenging Deontay Wilder to a title bout. So no, Wilder didn't pursue Fury. Fury pursued him.

He was nowhere on Deontay's radar. By that time Tyson was a nobody and was virtually forgotten by the British boxing public.

In any case, Wilder out of the goodness of heart said yes and threw Tyson Fury a lifeline. Which was now a mistake. He gave him a charitable and voluntary defense of his WBC title which he did not earn or deserve due to his popping for doping, juicing and drug abuse.

I know that hindsight is 20/20. However, Deontay Wilder would have been much better off had he left that bum to rot on the street because he misused, abused and exploited Wilder's fame by building his name and profile on it.

It was Fury who sold that PPV in America, not Wilder, otherwise it would've been Wilder signing the 80 million dollar deal and not Fury. What other names on Wilder's resume earned their shot? The mighty Chris Arreola? Gerald Washington?

Wilder took the Fury fight for the reasons i specified in my previous post, nothing more, nothing less.

I agree. You are right. Wilder was naive and has to be more careful the next time someone wants to do him a favor because there are sharks in this business who have ulterior motives and hidden agendas like Tyson Fury who are out to do him harm. Lastly, it's obvious why Arum poured $Millions down Tyson Fury's coffers rather than Deontay Wilder's because unlike the U.K. He believes that Tyson Fury is potentially more marketable in the U.S. due to his buttermilk complexion.

What complexion is Floyd Mayweather? Last time i looked, he was black, and no boxer has earned more money than him in this era, or any era.

I get it, you're butthurt that Tyson has a massive deal and Deontay is still fighting for peanuts.