Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua's Interminable Patience Will Pay Off in The End

[Batfink]

Whatever happened to the truth, this article is pure nonsense tabloid rubbish. The facts speak for themselves and the route to this matchup with miller has been a saga since fury stepped up to wilder.

In layman’s terms no one wanted low ball or chump change offers when they know the scale of the revenue involved when fighting Joshua. Matchroom didn’t want to budge and mismanaged the scenario and in my view didn’t have any intention of making the wilder/fury fight with Joshua. They made token gesture when the fans started to question their choice of opponents but never in my view engaged in any serious discussions to make a fight between Joshua and fury/wilder. These fights will easily be 100m plus they cannot be made via an email or a call that’s face to face business territory. These fights are not made over social media either and anyone who thinks the offers where serious has no understanding of business at that level.

The issue I have is all the nonsense and fake news that attempt to spin all the facts round. Just keep it simple stupid and be straight with the fans and the fighters.

The promoters are the bad guys and in this particular case matchroom and Eddie Hearn are the ones responsible for creating this fog of uncertainty and direction.

The next big heavyweight fight will be fury wilder II after that we will see what happens ...

[doom_specialist]

Wilder did decline the 15 million stating who sends a contract with no date and venue, also saying Joshua didn't sign it that they got Hearns signature on social media when they know Hearn signs AJ's fights. Ha

I understand that being intellectually dishonest makes for good entertainment when you can keep the con going, but the jig has been up. You conveniently left out that those items were requested earlier that week by Finkel, with Hearn saying they would be provided by the end of that week. Then at the end of said week, they announced the Povetkin fight lol. I love how you even put the "ha" in your comment like you weren't deliberately omitting facts.

If a promoter sends you a contract, that means you've received and accepted an offer, that included a fight purse, a date, and a location, among other details. To leave any of those details out of a contract is to clearly show you're not serious, especially after confirming a $50M offer and then immediately turning it down. Asking the question "who would sign a contract with no date or location on it?" shows business acumen, as much as Joshua apologists don't like that.

[peplz]

Wrong. Lou DiBella absolutely destroys BT controversy, exploding "NO!!! Who's saying the fight will be on BT????" (from 47:30 - 53:50)

Its amazing that anyone could believe that Lou Dibella is destroying anything but his own credibility with these statements. The stuttering beligerence is quite telling. And he pretty much admitted that the $50 million offer was just media rouse. But please continue...

[doom_specialist]

Yeah it’s a embarrassment that a writer who has won a boxing excellence award for reporting that he would write this. Just shows the complete lack of honesty , integrity and talent as far who covers the sport in the media

the rest of the media or Fans who even co-sign this new spin narrative are also a joke

I cant ever remember a Cash Cow not being able to get the fight they want. Oscar , Floyd , Canelo have never had that problem in fact it’s just the opposite with them you have every boxer under the sun raising their hand wanting to fight them because of the $ , attention and the chance to be the one to take them down and maybe be the new $ man. They’re Willing to do almost anything to get the fight. But people should believe AJ has become the first $ ever who can’t get the fights he and his team desperately want.

Hearn went from telling Wilder to kiss the ring and do as he’s told if he ever wants a AJ fight, basically saying he now runs the division, Now he’s doing interviews saying He and AJ are the ones that are being blackballed. Like how can anyone honestly believe that the division and sports $ man can’t get the opponets he wants to fight. Or fans saying that Wilder ,’Fury or even Whyte don’t really want the fight. Why would the divisions perceived #2 & #3 and top #5 HWs not want a chance to get 3 straps and be viewed as the top dog in a fight against the divisions Cash Cow.

You’d have to think if a somewhat fair offer were presented to any of them that would represent the true value of the extra revenue if AJ fought them instead of a random no name who cares HW , That offer would be quickly accepted.

After AJ beat Parker and got that last strap there now no excuse why his team not making the fight should be accepted. If his team wanted some easier fights before setting up a huge HW clash , cool but Hearn and AJ are are catching heat from fans because they act like they want the fight now but it’s clear they don’t.

Anyway always good to see your posts around here , You almost always give great a take on whatever the subject is

Appreciate it, bro. I try to be honest, and back up my opinions with facts, but I can get loaded and say ******ed **** too. I once incorrectly remembered that Amir Khan wasn't in much trouble in the Maidana fight lol.

Anyway, this whole thing is a product of cognitive dissonance, with a dash of people not actually caring all that much. Look at all the people still saying that the $50M was fake, even though it's repeatedly noted that Hearn himself said the money was there, and it was reported on THIS SITE. Look at all the people who say that Wilder should just shut up and take $15M flat because that's all he's worth, even though Joseph Parker was apparently worth $18M and a percentage. And as you noted, look at the rhetoric that Hearn is spewing without a speck of backlash, and the media even toeing his line. Hopefully these guys fight soon. Every version of this story (Ward-Golovkin especially) has sucked, and people not caring about details makes waiting for the conclusion agonizing.

[davefromvancouv]

Its amazing that anyone could believe that Lou Dibella is destroying anything but his own credibility with these statements. The stuttering beligerence is quite telling. And he pretty much admitted that the $50 million offer was just media rouse. But please continue...

Again, you need to listen to the full segment. The BT controversy is totally made up.

[peplz]

Again, you need to listen to the full segment. The BT controversy is totally made up.

I think you should take your own advice because Lou Dibella admits that the so called 50 million dollar offer came from BT Sport. Maybe Deontay Wilder's people should stop talking to the media. Cause its their statements that go against their own false narrative l.

[davefromvancouv]

I think you should take your own advice because Lou Dibella admits that the so called 50 million dollar offer came from BT Sport. Maybe Deontay Wilder's people should stop talking to the media. Cause its their statements that go against their own false narrative l.

Listen to the full 6 minute segment. You'll get to the part where he says the network is irrelevant. If Joshua is on BT, the contract would have been drawn up for BT. If he's on Sky, it's a Sky offer. Confirmed by Stephen Espinoza:



Hearn explains why the $50 million was really rejected:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

The $50 million offer was a real Sky offer from Showtime.

[REDEEMER]

I understand that being intellectually dishonest makes for good entertainment when you can keep the con going, but the jig has been up. You conveniently left out that those items were requested earlier that week by Finkel, with Hearn saying they would be provided by the end of that week. Then at the end of said week, they announced the Povetkin fight lol. I love how you even put the "ha" in your comment like you weren't deliberately omitting facts.

If a promoter sends you a contract, that means you've received and accepted an offer, that included a fight purse, a date, and a location, among other details. To leave any of those details out of a contract is to clearly show you're not serious, especially after confirming a $50M offer and then immediately turning it down. Asking the question "who would sign a contract with no date or location on it?" shows business acumen, as much as Joshua apologists don't like that.

Are you saying Finkel didn't claim the terms were good and he agreed to them ? Then when he got the contract added stipulations like a rematch clauses and then complained no date or venue ? Are you saying Finke l didn't have knowledge the fight wasn't next and didn't say he knew of that ? You then contradicted that Hearns supposed to accept his own offer from Finke l with no contract that he requested , he requested a draft contract that he was denied.

Finkel accepted the offer , got an actual contract with details and then declined it based on no date or venue which he knew was being worked out. He took 5 weeks to sort one out with Warren?

This is where you mental cases put your foot in your mouth all the time , Finkel even attempted to call the contract fraudulent because it had Hearne signature on it not Joshua who doesn't sign his fights off.

I don't think your very bright , you just don't understand when someone asks for a draft contract they are entitled to.one , coupled with the fact all the parties involved with Finke l admitted BT was involved. You would think your at least 8th grade level of education would somehow have you understand being tied to one network simply doesn't allow another to be involved and Warren has admit Ted that was his plan....basically sabotaging the fight with Finkel! Ha

[REDEEMER]

Listen to the full 6 minute segment. You'll get to the part where he says the network is irrelevant. If Joshua is on BT, the contract would have been drawn up for BT. If he's on Sky, it's a Sky offer. Confirmed by Stephen Espinoza:



Hearn explains why the $50 million was really rejected:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

The $50 million offer was a real Sky offer from Showtime.

Yea I'm sure Finkel was going to send a BT involvement of a contract they expected Hearn to take seriously? Ha

[peplz]

Listen to the full 6 minute segment. You'll get to the part where he says the network is irrelevant. If Joshua is on BT, the contract would have been drawn up for BT. If he's on Sky, it's a Sky offer. Confirmed by Stephen Espinoza:



Hearn explains why the $50 million was really rejected:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

The $50 million offer was a real Sky offer from Showtime.

Its so obvious that this dude is lying that its crazy. He doesn't know why Frank Warren said that. Sky Sports is on the contract. What contract? They cancelled their meeting and refused to talk. "People make deals without meeting all of the time". In what world do people make deals without discussing the terms of the deal? When the deal isn't real and its just a media rouse. A Showtime deal for Skysports? Does that even sound real? And again they refused to meet and have discussion about the deal. Steven Espinosa is a media guy and a Deontay Wilder supporter. He has a vested interest in this false narrative. And he mentioned a contract that we all know never existed. There was never a request for proof of funds. No explanation as to Frank Warren's statement. And the whole I'll send proof of funds to your lawyer but not to you sounds like something an 8 year old child would say. Its not reality. Its a media guy trying to make more money for his network.