lopez/loma 2020

[Curt Henning]

English isn't my first langue. My bad, I uunderstand now. I mean once tank grabbed a belt at 130 with Loma of course people will call for the fight. hell wasn't Floyd talking to army about it?

plus Davis had more fights than Loma. Loma is MORE green than Davis

no big deal if you didn't understand...its cool

having more fights doesn't equate to more experience....loma decided hed rather sit around and slap teenagers with headgear for a few more years(not a knock I like loma honestly)...so that's on him in my opinion...its not like loma wasn't fighting and training all that time...he just decided to turn pro later

I'm just curious to see if people will bash lopez(top ranks up and c oming star) the way they bash davis....by 2020 lopez will probably be in almost the same position as tank was last year....and people were bashing him left and right

I'm sure by 2020 lopez will be talking about loma too.....but if arum doesn't wanna make it he wont and he will make the excuse that its not the right time....same as davis and his people are using...but I doubt TR and lopez will get the same treatment as tank

[chrisJS]

Lopez isn't ready but if he can step up and maybe fight a couple guys like Pedraza or Campbell or win the WBC then he should be ready next year. Gervonta had won a title and was running his mouth so he should have been ready too. It's lame to talk **** but then duck the fight. I find it strange his fans/PBC fans are saying he KO's Loma but that he's also "not ready" despite being 24/25 and having won a championship two years ago and over 20 fights plus a big amateur background already.

Lopez and his dad should be held accountable for their words and claims. We know Loma will face anyone so I'd be disappointed to see them not try to prove themselves.

What will Top Rank do? I don't know. My guess is if Lopez wins a title and wants the fight he'll get it and they will make it. Loma has made it clear he wants all the titles and he takes on all comers so the key will be getting Lopez his WBC title.

[-DSG-]

Teo wants all the smoke hes built for this!

[Curt Henning]

Lopez isn't ready but if he can step up and maybe fight a couple guys like Pedraza or Campbell or win the WBC then he should be ready next year. Gervonta had won a title and was running his mouth so he should have been ready too. It's lame to talk **** but then duck the fight. I find it strange his fans/PBC fans are saying he KO's Loma but that he's also "not ready" despite being 24/25 and having won a championship two years ago and over 20 fights plus a big amateur background already.

Lopez and his dad should be held accountable for their words and claims. We know Loma will face anyone so I'd be disappointed to see them not try to prove themselves.

What will Top Rank do? I don't know. My guess is if Lopez wins a title and wants the fight he'll get it and they will make it. Loma has made it clear he wants all the titles and he takes on all comers so the key will be getting Lopez his WBC title.

I never once suggest lopez was ready and should be chris...u know that

and you know exactly what I'm saying....davis last year and lopez mid-late 2020 will be in almost identical situations....and in fact lopez/loma will be easier to make because its in house

if arum tries to make the same excuse tank has used do you think the fans will give Top rank a pass and be ok with it or talk about them like they do lopez/Floyd

its hard to know exactly what TR would do....but its not unlikely to hear something similar from arum about how he wants the fight to be bigger and for lopez to become a bigger star first...so how do you think people would react if bob pulled a tank?

[kidbazooka]

Lopez needs to grab that WBC belt so there are no excuses for avoiding him.

I agree

Lopez might actually be ready by the end of 2019

[Lopez_Boxing]

no big deal if you didn't understand...its cool

having more fights doesn't equate to more experience....loma decided hed rather sit around and slap teenagers with headgear for a few more years(not a knock I like loma honestly)...so that's on him in my opinion...its not like loma wasn't fighting and training all that time...he just decided to turn pro later

I'm just curious to see if people will bash lopez(top ranks up and c oming star) the way they bash davis....by 2020 lopez will probably be in almost the same position as tank was last year....and people were bashing him left and right

I'm sure by 2020 lopez will be talking about loma too.....but if arum doesn't wanna make it he wont and he will make the excuse that its not the right time....same as davis and his people are using...but I doubt TR and lopez will get the same treatment as tank

well is it age or experience? Because yes, he will be 23, but still have less fights then Davis did when Davis was champion at 130.

and pro experience is different from ams. that's why Loma lost to salido. Loma was a better boxer, but salido had more pro experience. more veteran tactics. plus Davis mentor is probably the greatest boxer of all time. if Davis is a champ then he needs to fight the best. if like a gets a belt then he better get ready for people to say, "it's time to fight Loma "

[Curt Henning]

well is it age or experience? Because yes, he will be 23, but still have less fights then Davis did when Davis was champion at 130.

and pro experience is different from ams. that's why Loma lost to salido. Loma was a better boxer, but salido had more pro experience. more veteran tactics. plus Davis mentor is probably the greatest boxer of all time. if Davis is a champ then he needs to fight the best. if like a gets a belt then he better get ready for people to say, "it's time to fight Loma "

If Loma is ****y enough to go after a belt and against a salido in his 2nd pro fight that. I don't feel there is any need to make excuses for him....he obviously felt he was ready and I'm sure he was made well aware of the difference between the pros and ams....do.u think he had no clue what he was getting into? I for one sure think he did....I think he thought his skill would override all of that.....no.need to make excuses....he thought he was armed and prepared for salido

Lopez by late 2020 will have similar amount of fights as Davis fdid at 23 and likely a belt as well...let's not nitlivk if Lopez had one or two less fights by then...it's similar and in the ballpark

Btw I think Loma is superb...and Lopez is a future superstar....I'm not knocking these guys honestly....both are must watch and I'm really excited to see Lopez each time out

[Lopez_Boxing]

I never once suggest lopez was ready and should be chris...u know that

and you know exactly what I'm saying....davis last year and lopez mid-late 2020 will be in almost identical situations....and in fact lopez/loma will be easier to make because its in house

if arum tries to make the same excuse tank has used do you think the fans will give Top rank a pass and be ok with it or talk about them like they do lopez/Floyd

its hard to know exactly what TR would do....but its not unlikely to hear something similar from arum about how he wants the fight to be bigger and for lopez to become a bigger star first...so how do you think people would react if bob pulled a tank?

I never made an excuse for Loma losing. he lost because he lost. I didn't me too the low blows or coming on over weight. I said there is a difference between pros and and. that's a fact. not only does Davis have similar am experience as term of amount of fights. he also has double the pro experience. there should never be a reason. a guy with 24 fights isn't ready for a guy with 13 fights

and about Lopez. no way he is fighting 10 times in the next 2 years. so he won't have comparable amount of fights

[chrisJS]

I never once suggest lopez was ready and should be chris...u know that

and you know exactly what I'm saying....davis last year and lopez mid-late 2020 will be in almost identical situations....and in fact lopez/loma will be easier to make because its in house

if arum tries to make the same excuse tank has used do you think the fans will give Top rank a pass and be ok with it or talk about them like they do lopez/Floyd

its hard to know exactly what TR would do....but its not unlikely to hear something similar from arum about how he wants the fight to be bigger and for lopez to become a bigger star first...so how do you think people would react if bob pulled a tank?

I'll say wait until it unfolds. My guess is that if Lopez gets the WBC belt and wants the fight it will happen no problem. I don't think Loma is at the point where Top Rank are cashing him out so he's their guy so I think they'll want what he wants which is undisputed.

I'm not sure that Top Rank really has fanboys in the manner that PBC does. I see a lot of new Lopez fans claiming he's getting ducked by Loma and then he'll break Loma and I see Loma fans thinking he'll school the kid. I've seen logical people say he's not ready for Loma but if it happens it happens. I just hope if it does happen the people who swear Lopez wins will give credit and not lie after the fight and that they'll still support Lopez but my guess is that it will be a no on both counts.

[Citizen Koba]

will the top rank fanboys demand lopez step up and take an easy to make in house fight against loma? or will he be too young and too green in ways that gervonta davis could never be?

by my accounts lopez should be ready for this by summer-late 2020

when arum says that hes not ready to make that fight and the timing isn't right just yet will you support him or hate on him the way you guys do to davis?

I already know the answer....but ill ask anyway

Who are these 'top rank fanboys' of whom you speak? Probably be helpful if you named some names rather than just throwing that ish out there like posters belong to some kinda homogenous group (shit, homogenous is really auto-censored, huh? Good job this ain't a forum discussing milk processing ) without individual opinions. I mean, would you consider yourself to be a 'PBC fanboy' or some such strangeness, cos by accusing others you're opening yourself to just such a label?

Anyways. I ain't a Top Rank fanboy, or indeed a fan of any particular promotion (cos, well, that'd just be freaking weird), but to answer your question, either way works and any three way combination between Lopez / Loma and Davis.

Much as I'd like to see all these fights as soon as they can be made my preference for any of these three fights would be that we get the best possible version of each fighter - as in closest to prime, which unfortunately probably means some compromises. Loma's likely to be on the slide within the next 3 years or so given that he's 31 in a coupla days, whereas I doubt Teofimo will have reached his peak by then - still that'd probably be closer to the best version of each we'll see than it is now. So. Lopez vs Loma maybe '21 or '22.

Tank vs Loma should probably happen first since Tank is that bit older and has considerably more ring experience (and has actually beaten someone fairly decent in Pedraza), though obviously Tank needs to move up to 135 (or Loma down, though I suspect the former will happen sooner rather than later anyway) and to fight a few live bodies at either weight... 2020/2021 will bring Davis fairly close to his prime while Lomachenko should not have started to slide to any significant degree.