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[Chollo Vista]

I'm not sure you understand that youtube provides a general feature as to the time and date a video was uploaded? You do realize you keep addressing their confrontation in person vs Fred's recent upload discussing what had happened?

Why don't you want to accept that it was yesterday, the video I just gave you, that Fred is saying he's "not going to allow Ward to say lies."

I think you need integrity. Have courage to admit that Fred is 2-faced

And you don't think Fred basically told Ward he was lying about the Kovalev situation to his face?

[Thuglife Nelo]

And you don't think Fred basically told Ward he was lying about the Kovalev situation to his face?

I see your angle. The only reason you keep defending BC’s opinion is because you feel BC is right. You already contradicted yourself earlier saying they “made amends.” Now you’re saying “well Fred told him all these things, they made amends, and he has a right to continue calling him a liar.”

[Chollo Vista]

No no no! Let’s imagine BC didn’t upload his latest video, then you and I could assume “ok hey let’s move on.”

You don’t want to acknowledge that BC said, “I’m not going to allow Ward to say lies...”.

Do you realize that’s defaming Ward? First off, who the hell is Fred Sharpton to “allow” Ward or Ward vs Fred. Don’t you get it, Fred is exploiting opportunity with his confrontation with Ward. People are commenting on that video to give it up.

“Are you calling me a liar, Frank?” - Tony Montana

Ok man, feel as you like to feel

I just hope you're not black starting this very rudimentary thread regarding two gentlemen that had an honest and candid conversation and agreed to disagree

But go ahead and keep this silliness going. What is the The View?

[Chollo Vista]

I see your angle. The only reason you keep defending BC’s opinion is because you feel BC is right. You already contradicted yourself earlier saying they “made amends.” Now you’re saying “well Fred told him all these things, they made amends, and he has a right to continue calling him a liar.”

I don't think he's right on certain topics because Ward made a strong case in his defense

Why are you acting like they disagreed on one thing? There were multiple points to that conversation

I agree with Fred on certain topics as I agree with Ward on certain topics

The point of the conversation is there were misunderstandings in certain areas and flat out disagreements in other areas

My overall point is everything Fred is still talking about was already said to Ward's face so there's nothing fake about it. I think he created another video for the trolls, not Ward

[Thuglife Nelo]

regarding two gentlemen that had an honest and candid conversation and agreed to disagree

You got this correct. Yet you don’t want to admit that BC, 17 hours ago, uploaded saying “I’m not going to allow Ward to say lies.”

Btw, let me challenge you. What do you think Fred means to say “I’m not going to allow...”

[Chollo Vista]

You got this correct. Yet you don’t want to admit that BC, 17 hours ago, uploaded saying “I’m not going to allow Ward to say lies.”

Btw, let me challenge you. What do you think Fred means to say “I’m not going to allow...”

He's saying he's sticking by the point he made in his original videos as well as as his in person conversation with Ward which is Ward knew the Kovalev fight was racial

On that topic, I agree with him. I think Ward did know that fight was racial.

[Thuglife Nelo]

He's saying he's sticking by the point he made in his original videos as well as as his in person conversation with Ward which is Ward knew the Kovalev fight was racial

On that topic, I agree with him. I think Ward did know that fight was racial.

Your angle, with all the minions that follow Fred, are saying that Fred is right, and don’t give Ward “benefit of doubt” as he says. Again, Fighthype asked Ward about Kovalev’s chimp pictures of Adonis on the T-shirt. That’s the reference that Fred is using. Fred, in the latest video I gave you, links that interview in the description, so Fred is taking that out of context to say Ward vs Kovalev was racist.

You seem to not understand that Kovalev’s chimp shirts predate Ward vs Kovalev. Adonis and Padcal don’t have one white parent. So Ward doesn’t have to acknowledge that Koavlev’s chimp shirts defined their series. Just because the non-pro everybody want Ward to be exclusively pro-black doesn’t mean Ward has to agree with these narratives from Fred.

Ward is biracial. He did not lie or deny the Fighthype interviews question about the T-shirt’s that predated Ward vs Kovalev. Therefore, Kovalev being racist doesn’t mean Ward vs Kovalev is about race. Stop insulting boxing fans as if Ward vs Kovalev was white vs black when a fighter is being pressured yet is biracial.

[Chollo Vista]

Your angle, with all the minions that follow Fred, are saying that Fred is right, and don’t give Ward “benefit of doubt” as he says. Again, Fighthype asked Ward about Kovalev’s chimp pictures of Adonis on the T-shirt. That’s the reference that Fred is using. Fred, in the latest video I gave you, links that interview in the description, so Fred is taking that out of context to say Ward vs Kovalev was racist.

You seem to not understand that Kovalev’s chimp shirts predate Ward vs Kovalev. Adonis and Padcal don’t have one white parent. So Ward doesn’t have to acknowledge that Koavlev’s chimp shirts defined their series. Just because the non-pro everybody want Ward to be exclusively pro-black doesn’t mean Ward has to agree with these narratives from Fred.

Ward is biracial. He did not lie or deny the Fighthype interviews question about the T-shirt’s that predated Ward vs Kovalev. Therefore, Kovalev being racist doesn’t mean Ward vs Kovalev is about race. Stop insulting boxing fans as if Ward vs Kovalev was white vs black when a fighter is being pressured yet is biracial.

Honestly, here's my take.

Fighters/celebs straddle the race line when convenient

OJ Isn't black he's OJ when convenient. But when Mark Fuhrman is on that ass, he's black

Mayweather doesn't care about racism when it's convenient and he's in the clear. But when Merchant was hating on him after the Baldomir fight, he had him in tears because of racism

Ward had a real conversation with Danny Jacobs about how black fighters have to always be the bad guy and play heel in boxing due to racial issues in America wanting the black guy to always be the bad guy. So in that breathe, he can relate as a black fighter. But when back tracking to play cover for a point he made about being for everybody, now all of a sudden he's no longer the black fighter, but is now biracial

Some of these guys straddle the line. When it's all good, they're for everybody and there is no racism. When things go bad, they're quick to remember just how racist things can be

So on that point I disagree with Ward and think he's straddling the line

[Thuglife Nelo]

Honestly, here's my take.

Fighters/celebs straddle the race line when convenient

OJ Isn't black he's OJ when convenient. But when Mark Fuhrman is on that ass, he's black

Mayweather doesn't care about racism when it's convenient and he's in the clear. But when Lampley was hating on him after the Baldomir fight, he had him in tears because of racism

Ward had a real conversation with Danny Jacobs about how black fighters have to always be the bad guy and play heel in boxing due to racial issues in America wanting the black guy to always be the bad guy. So in that breathe, he can relate as a black fighter. But when back tracking to play cover for a point he made about being for everybody, now all of a sudden he's no longer the black fighter, but is now biracial

Some of these guys straddle the line. When it's all good, they're for everybody and there is no racism. When things go bad, they're quick to remember just how racist things can be

So on that point I disagree with Ward and think he's straddling the line

Ok man. You roll with Fred. I’m telling you, DBN exposed Fred.

[Chollo Vista]

Ok man. You roll with Fred. I’m telling you, DBN exposed Fred.

I knew there would be no changing your mind