Which boxer has the most deluded fans and why?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    Oh no, you got me there huh ya c@nt?!?

    You're a dumb homer.

    F@ck off
    Facts, you can't handle them.

    10 seconds doe........

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #42
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Facts, you can't handle them.

      10 seconds doe........
      https://********/AuD_G_WE4Sg

      Slo-mo for dummies.

      Not fully standing at 10 seconds. Still wobbling.

      Facts! And you can't handle them.

      Trolling p@ssy

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
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        Slo-mo for dummies.

        Not fully standing at 10 seconds. Still wobbling.

        Facts! And you can't handle them.

        Trolling p@ssy
        Edited. The one i posted has the telecast clock on screen. FACTS. Think before you post ****** things.

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        • kafkod
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          #44
          Originally posted by Idunnoshet
          On NSB I'd say Pac fans were / are by far the worst . Followed by A.J fans .

          In the gyms I'd say GGG fans .
          I swear I had arguments with respected trainers and fighters who swore GGG was the best Middleweight in history . And this was Before he even beat Jacobs .
          Did the fact that so many respected trainers and fighters rated prime GGG so highly not tell you something?

          Like .. maybe the ordinary fans who felt the same way were not so deluded after all?

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          • Boxing Goat
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            #45
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Edited. The one i posted has the telecast clock on screen. FACTS. Think before you post ****** things.
            Lol @ editing a real time video with a stop watch on it. STFU twit.

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              Lol @ editing a real time video with a stop watch on it. STFU twit.
              You think that they can't? You edit the clip to stretch it out abit longer then add the stopclock later. FFS you are dumb.

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                #47
                I believe I take this.

                It is my honest opinion that Deontay Wilder is a very under appreciate present day all time great. In fact, I fully expect him to retire the unbeaten HW champion of the world. I reckon he'll be doing that because no one respects his game, just like how no one respected Rocky's game. When you don't respect a man's game you ain't wise to its tricks.

                Wilder fights like a sword and shield era boxer. Another poster told me he uses a spear and shield analogy when teaching, that's probably more correct in Wilder's case but the point is the raw form, the ideas, theories, drills, things like that are all ancient boxing. What fans exalt in the modern era is modern boxing. Fans incorrectly assume ancient boxing was displaced by modern boxing by being beaten in the ring. It was not, it was displaced by being beaten in the bank, modern boxers make more money and have longer careers.

                Wilder is the gladiator he claims to be. Not as much so as Marciano, but, there's still very little modern boxing in Wilder.

                Modern boxing comes from one man, Daniel Mendoza, who did not invent per se, defense as you know it, but did bring it into boxing. Mendoza borrowed from fencing just like how the ancient borrow from the sword and shield practitioners of their day. Sword and shield is in your face disrupting your view and stance with his shield while he hunts for the death blow for his sword. A fencer stays on the outside and looks for angles to attack gaps in armor. Your basic puncher and boxer division comes from this.

                When you look at so called punchers, like say Joe Frazier, who is often compared to Marciano, you'll see quite a lot of fencer style boxing incorporated into his game. When you compare Joe to the sword and shield era he hardly fits in. When you compare Marciano just about everything he does is mirrored by the ancients. His crouch looks like a Spartan going to slay a dragon because he was trained to be a goddamn dragon slayer. Frazier's stances and guard looks more like a fencer coming in close for a dagger attack....because he is.

                Wilder on the other hand, if you take the sword out of Marciano's right and give him a spear you have Deontay The Bronze Bomber Wilder. Posture game, give them something to look at that looks obvious and dangerous for you. Position game, be in a place that makes them not even consider the style of attack you're bring to them. Powerline game, move your body into place rather than you limbs, be planted not on your toes, and line you punch up so that your skeletal structure deliver maximum energy while receiving minimum newtonian reaction energy. Bait game, give them something they can believe they are being successful with, lul them into a sense of comfort and then take their ****in' head and knock that ***** to the moon. And finally we have the line of sight game. Wilder moves around like a fool for a reason, same reason Rocky made himself small my crouching to one side rather than diving down like Tyson would decades later.

                Tyson Fury will be knocked out because Tyson Fury honestly believes he earned his rounds.

                Joshua will be knocked out because he and his team believe boxing can save them.

                The only thing that might stop Wilder is if his training team are successful in getting Wilder to believe he needs to be more boxer and less gladiator. He doesn't. He needs to just gladiator through these pansies and quit respecting skill sets that can't actually hurt him. Put a man on the floor twice, didn't even get rocked, and still respected his punches enough to shell and guard when he throws them? Marciano don't know nothing about no draws son because Marciano showed no goddamn respect to no man's punches. You can't get no Suzie Q if you're going to guard like a boxer. A Spartan, a Gladiator, a Pygmachia Champion would bump that ***** with his shield and kill him with his sword exactly like Marciano's Suzie Q. Wilder needs to get with that mindset and then the man is totally unbeatable.

                I believe he can do it.
                Last edited by Marchegiano; 02-14-2019, 12:38 PM. Reason: autocorrect

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                • chrisJS
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano

                  Modern boxing comes from one man, Daniel Mendoza, who did not invent per se, defense as you know it, but did bring it into boxing. Mendoza borrowed from fencing just like how the ancient borrow from the sword and shield practitioners of their day. Sword and shield is in your face disrupting your view and stance with his shield while he hunts for the death blow for his sword. A fencer stays on the outside and looks for angles to attack gaps in armor. Your basic puncher and boxer division comes from this.
                  I've read quite a lot about Mendoza and his influence in some books on ***ish boxing. He's without doubt the biggest influence in the pre-glove era of boxing. Not a lot of people know it but there has been a huge influence by ***ish boxers throughout the sports history through to the gloved era too.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Here spastic.

                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
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                    Slo-mo for dummies.

                    Not fully standing at 10 seconds. Still wobbling.

                    Facts! And you can't handle them.

                    Trolling p@ssy
                    Now this is a great example of why I voted for the Wilder/LDBC goon squad as the worst and most delusional "fans" in the whole of boxing.

                    The official round timer for the fight, which corresponds to actual real time that the whole world - except for the LDBC - lives and dies by, was being shown on screen by the broadcaster when Fury went down. And it shows, clearly and incontrovertibly, that Fury was up 9 seconds after hitting the deck.

                    So do they accept reality, which is what any sane and rational person would do?

                    Nope ... what they do is find some footage shot on a mobile phone, which doesn't show the official time counter, and superimpose their own counter - which is clearly jumping and running fast - over the top of it!!!

                    These people are fckn unbelievable - literally unreal!

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                    • Real King Kong
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
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                      Slo-mo for dummies.

                      Not fully standing at 10 seconds. Still wobbling.

                      Facts! And you can't handle them.

                      Trolling p@ssy
                      Even that video shows him up at 10...both feet on the floor, gloves off the canvas in an upright position. I mean are you saying it should have been stopped cuz he was slightly slouching a millisecond after 10 seconds? Also, the ref doesn’t use a stop watch, there’s always a slight margin of error. Don’t really see what the problem is.

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