Comments Thread For: Andre Ward's Injury: Roc Nation Sports Sues Insurer For $6.3M

[Ake-Dawg]

I have seen the policy and read it. It is a straight up disability policy. I looked up the case through PACER and read the exhibits, the policy being one of them. Ward is claiming 100% disability. It also shows Roc Nation as the owner and beneficiary of the policy not Ward. And as I wrote in an earlier post Llyod's is asking the court to dismiss Ward from the case based on the above written.

The only injury listed is a knee injury 06/25/15 which required a 4-6 week recovery. It does not seem like a career ending injury to me.

Ok. Thanks for that. Wonder if their argument is that the 2015 injury progressively got worse.

[jdp28tx]

Ok. Thanks for that. Wonder if their argument is that the 2015 injury progressively got worse.

I will write new thread with more details. But looking at it the 2015 injury is what he listed when going thru process of acquiring policy. He had to list any old injuries it seems. I was wrong saying "it does not look like career ending injury" because I got the date of injury and why it was lsited out of context. My mistake. I have fixed it in new thread.

[Scary_canary]

Fighters are know for fighting through the pain. I doubt this is a fake claim as I'm sure Ward has the proper imaging to back his case.

I have no doubt it’s a real injury and there legitimately trying to get the money...but when it comes to the courts it’s all about the wording of the contract... it will be very hard to argue in court a “career ending injury” when he fought twice after the injury, whether he fought through the pain or not, by fighting he proved he could fight

[jdp28tx]

Ok. Thanks for that. Wonder if their argument is that the 2015 injury progressively got worse.

If so the policy won't cover it. Actually this is one of the reasons the claim was denied. Pre-existing injury prior to policy and policy did not cover degenerative or cumulative injuries.

[TinAgeOfBoxing]

Roc Nation trying to recoup there losses from those crooked Ward fights.

[Ake-Dawg]

If so the policy won't cover it. Actually this is one of the reasons the claim was denied. Pre-existing injury prior to policy and policy did not cover degenerative or cumulative injuries.

Thanks again. I didn't find any sights with the lawsuit available that didn't require a sign up. Seems like one of those won't hurt to try type of lawsuits.

[Scipio2009]

I get & agree with most of your response, but as to the bolded part HAS IT taken value from him?

I'm not 100% it has since he's talked about potentially fighting again. He's even said he wouldn't be opposed to move to HW to fight Joshua. To me it sounds like Ward could fight again, but he chooses not to. If he could fight but doesn't is that about his injury or a choice? Seems like a choice to me.

The Stevenson fight was a lost massive payday, the potential Bellew fight was a missed payday, and then there was the shot at a heavyweight title after that (Joshua seeming to be seen as the easier mark for whatever reason).

As great as I think Ward is, and as good as his reputation in the sport continues to be, he's lost a ton of momentum at this point, due to the injury.

Even if, for whatever reason, something happened to Miller that pulled him from the June fight and Ward could step in, the event would still be nowhere near where it likely would've been had he not gotten hurt.

It's back to the football player analogy; stud Sr QB (viewed as a consensus #1 QB in the class, and top-5 overall) blows out his knee in the 4th quarter of a bowl game.

A nasty injury for sure, but one that can be fixed; top 5 pick becomes a 2nd/3rd Round pick, with the QB out at least $15m on his first contract and injury concern on his file for the second deal.

If his camp were sharps, before he stepped back on campus, they'd know the rookie number for a top 10 pick, also know what a 3rd rounder would get, get an insurance policy for at least that difference, and pay out the premiums for the 6-10 months before locking in that rookie deal.

[Eff Pandas]

The Stevenson fight was a lost massive payday, the potential Bellew fight was a missed payday, and then there was the shot at a heavyweight title after that (Joshua seeming to be seen as the easier mark for whatever reason).

As great as I think Ward is, and as good as his reputation in the sport continues to be, he's lost a ton of momentum at this point, due to the injury.

Even if, for whatever reason, something happened to Miller that pulled him from the June fight and Ward could step in, the event would still be nowhere near where it likely would've been had he not gotten hurt.

It's back to the football player analogy; stud Sr QB (viewed as a consensus #1 QB in the class, and top-5 overall) blows out his knee in the 4th quarter of a bowl game.

A nasty injury for sure, but one that can be fixed; top 5 pick becomes a 2nd/3rd Round pick, with the QB out at least $15m on his first contract and injury concern on his file for the second deal.

If his camp were sharps, before he stepped back on campus, they'd know the rookie number for a top 10 pick, also know what a 3rd rounder would get, get an insurance policy for at least that difference, and pay out the premiums for the 6-10 months before locking in that rookie deal.

Yea idk man. You're kinda just rehashing what you said that I agreed with. Thing is idk that Ward has missed anything he hasn't wanted to miss that he coulda taken if he'd have wanted to. This doesn't appear to be a legit career ending injury aside from the fact made a choice to retire.

That said this sounds like its about sh^t more basic then the injury anyway.

[Scipio2009]

"Lloyd’s of London has asked a California federal court to dismiss a $6.3 million disability coverage claim from ex-pro boxer Andre Ward, saying the policy at issue was written for his management company, not Ward specifically".

The suit was filed on December 14, 2018. Lloyds is now seeking to dismiss the case and the next hearing is set for April 12. Now the above is only 1 of possibly more reasons Lloyd's is asking for the judge to toss the case.

If what you've posted here is legit, Lloyd's of London isn't dis*****g that the policy should be paid out; just that Andre Ward doesn't have standing.

If Lloyd's then turns around and tries to argue that they wrote an injury policy and collected premiums for an athlete injury to a paper entity, that'd look to be blatant fraud, I'd imagine

[jdp28tx]

If what you've posted here is legit, Lloyd's of London isn't dis*****g that the policy should be paid out; just that Andre Ward doesn't have standing.

If Lloyd's then turns around and tries to argue that they wrote an injury policy and collected premiums for an athlete injury to a paper entity, that'd look to be blatant fraud, I'd imagine

Read thread I put up. Roc nation is owner & beneficiary of the policy plus the claim was denied based on several factors.