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  • PoserExposer
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    #31
    You have to be serious right? You know that’s not the real Deontay Wilder? For one, all you have to do is look up his account to see his posts and you’ll know how he talks about the real Deontay Wilder. Second, you do know the real Deontay Wilder can’t speak or write worth a damn? Last, he changed his avatar in 2012 to Deontay Wilder. Even then he was still referring to the real Deontay Wilder in the 3rd person. You’re welcome...
    Originally posted by petero
    This is the real Deontay? I was at the staples center. What an amazing fight. You and Fury showed pure class.

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    • R_Walken
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      #32
      Agreed Dominic

      Wilders been running scared right into tougher opponets and bigger paydays

      What a chump

      Decent fight of 2nd tier HW if Whyte / Breazeale happens

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      • Patsfan bri
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        #33
        Breazeale has fought only once since 2017 how the hell is the mandatory? Whyte should be the mandatory. Funny how breazeale accuses wilder of running when the WBC is ordering the rematch with fury.

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        • R_Walken
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          #34
          Fighters must know that if they go the WBC route even if they work themselves up to become the Mando l. If they have no clout in the sport then the Mando will be ordered literally once every leap year, and make the Mando jump through hoops for years if they choose No use crying over it

          If they actually want to get the Mando enforced in a timely manner they have to go to the IBF. Because they’ll enforce it even if you have absolutely no chance against the Champ or if it’s bad for the sport and their organization. But they’ll enforce it

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          • SchoolTheseCats
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            #35
            Originally posted by R_Walken
            Fighters must know that if they go the WBC route even if they work themselves up to become the Mando l. If they have no clout in the sport then the Mando will be ordered literally once every leap year, and make the Mando jump through hoops for years if they choose No use crying over it

            If they actually want to get the Mando enforced in a timely manner they have to go to the IBF. Because they’ll enforce it even if you have absolutely no chance against the Champ or if it’s bad for the sport and their organization. But they’ll enforce it
            As a boxing fan I have no problem with wbc not calling for mando in hw division yet, we got wilder/Ortiz and wilder/fury x2 outta it Breazeale and Whyte gets sparked by wilder inside 5 rounds

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            • Shadoww702
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              #36
              Originally posted by SamLangfordFan
              Two all offense, no defense fighters. Should be a shootout but I think Whyte gets home first and early.
              Pretty much this. Whyte does gas pretty bad though

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              • R_Walken
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                #37
                Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                As a boxing fan I have no problem with wbc not calling for mando in hw division yet, we got wilder/Ortiz and wilder/fury x2 outta it Breazeale and Whyte gets sparked by wilder inside 5 rounds
                I agree

                I don’t have a problem either , Fans are getting fights they want to see instead of having to be forced a Wilder / Breazeale fight that wouldn’t interest many

                I’m just saying any fighter who isn’t a established name working their way up the WBC ladder has to know that even if they become the Mando. It’s more then likely they’ll have to wait years before they get their shot at the Champ especially if the Champ is a known name in the sport. Usually its better for the fans but sh.itty for the fighter but they can’t really complain about it

                The IBF will enforce their Mando even if the fighter is a no name no hoper who doesnt even deserve a shot and has no problem stripping the Champ even if He’s a draw losing out on better fights for their strap and I’m assuming a loss of sanctioning fees. But the Mando will get his shot

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                • Batfink
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                  #38
                  Merry Go Round

                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  I think they put themselves in it with the Wilder protecting thing, first they place Gerald washington into the WBC ranking, a few weeks after the Wilder fight was annouced to give the Wilder fight some validity, up to that point Washington was unheard of and didn't fight anyone in the WBC ranking to get up in their ranking.

                  Then the whole Breazeale/Molina/Whyte situation, then Fury came from no where and got a shot. To compound it all, Fury wasn't tested in accordance with the Top 10 WBC ranking prior to the Wilder/Fury annoucement.

                  They basically make the rules up as they go along, it's either to appease/Protect Wilder or their pockets. Breazeale was used to block Whyte from fighting Wilder, now they have mandated the fight between those two, what guarantee is there that the winner gets the Wilder/Fury winner?

                  We would await the next WBC spin.
                  I think we are about to witness how farcical all these governing bodies are, let’s explore the possible options so the winner of Breazeale vs Whyte is mandatory for WBC strap.

                  Now Fury vs Wilder II is about to take place sanctioned by the WBC if Wilder looses the belt there’s a rematch clause which I’m guessing the WBC have to sanction, after the rematch the winner may then want to negotiate an undisputed unification bout with the Joshua assuming he is still champion. Where does that leave the WBC, do they sanction that bout as a unification is treated higher than a mandatory or do they demand the mandatory defence because the unification bout in itself maybe at least 2 bouts.

                  They are currently attempting to create the mandatory by these eliminators so what use is that if they don’t force the mandatory defence? This leaves WBC highly vulnerable to criticism and begins to dimish their value in the heavyweight division.

                  If we follow this pattern of these champions fighting each other the WBC mandatory won’t come into play till April/May 2022.

                  This eads us to a possibility of forcing mandatories and/or the main players fury/Joshua/wilder relinquishing the belts to fight each other as the status/revenue will be too hard to ignore and the belts become token gestures.

                  In fact that’s my preferred option they just relinquish their belts if forced into a mandatory and fight it out and without warning the governing bodies would come running back to sanction those bouts just to get some creditability.
                  Last edited by Batfink; 02-13-2019, 08:42 AM.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Batfink
                    I think we are about to witness how farcical all these governing bodies are, let’s explore the possible options so the winner of Breazeale vs Whyte is mandatory for WBC strap.

                    Now Fury vs Wilder II is about to take place sanctioned by the WBC if Wilder looses the belt there’s a rematch clause which I’m guessing the WBC have to sanction, after the rematch the winner may then want to negotiate an undisputed unification bout with the Joshua assuming he is still champion. Where does that leave the WBC, do they sanction that bout as a unification is treated higher than a mandatory or do they demand the mandatory defence because the unification bout in itself maybe at least 2 bouts.

                    They are currently attempting to create the mandatory by these eliminators so what use is that if they don’t force the mandatory defence? This leaves WBC highly vulnerable to criticism and begins to dimish their value in the heavyweight division.

                    If we follow this pattern of these champions fighting each other the WBC mandatory won’t come into play till April/May 2022.

                    This eads us to a possibility of forcing mandatories and/or the main players fury/Joshua/wilder relinquishing the belts to fight each other as the status/revenue will be too hard to ignore and the belts become token gestures.

                    In fact that’s my preferred option they just relinquish their belts if forced into a mandatory and fight it out and without warning the governing bodies would come running back to sanction those bouts just to get some creditability.
                    Thats the thing, If i work my way up and i don't get my chance then i would be pissed. Its all great seeing better fights but when other boxers jump over you then its just not right.

                    I mean if i was Whyte or Breazeale i would NOT be happy that Fury jumped the queue. I would want my shot at the title, most of these fans that cry "I didn't mind seeing Wilder/Fury" wouldn't be saying so if Wilder or Fury were the ones in the position of Breazeale or Whyte.

                    If Wilder didn't get his chance against Bermane i doubt anyone of these guys would be saying the same thing because others like Haye, Pulev, Vitali , eddie chambers, Valuev etc just to name a few jumped over him.

                    Let's just wait and see what happens after they all fight for the mandatory status.

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                    • Chrismart
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                      #40
                      The WBC have been a bit of a mess throughout all this.
                      But at least it looks like we may get a decent fight in the end.

                      Breazeale is game and will come forward. He can be hit and Whyte can punch. Could be a fun fight.

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