Are Wilder fans classier?

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  • MUNG
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    #11
    Originally posted by Cauliflower ear
    When your talking about Wilder being technically horrible and lacking skill...your being factual. When your talking about AJ being limited and mediocre your not being factual. I imagine you recieve animosity because your opinion isn't respected by Joshua fans. Wilder fans won't give you grief because most of them arnt actually Wilder fans...they hate Eddie Hearn(mainly due to patriotism with racial undertones) and are fraught with insecurity because the horse that they have backed is a one trick pony.
    thats a damn good answer too, on a roll here

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    • Lopez_Boxing
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      #12
      Originally posted by Cauliflower ear
      When your talking about Wilder being technically horrible and lacking skill...your being factual. When your talking about AJ being limited and mediocre your not being factual. I imagine you recieve animosity because your opinion isn't respected by Joshua fans. Wilder fans won't give you grief because most of them arnt actually Wilder fans...they hate Eddie Hearn(mainly due to patriotism with racial undertones) and are fraught with insecurity because the horse that they have backed is a one trick pony.
      AJ doesn't have skills though. hes superbly technicial. He doesn't have a slippery defense, good foot work, angles. He's literally a text book boxer as far as punching goes. What skills do you see he possess? And no disrespect. I would love to just chat with no
      Insults. If ignorant to the topic, a bigger mans job would be to tech me.

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      • Lopez_Boxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jubei
        Wilder was getting outboxed by goddamn Gerald Washington, have you ever seen AJ getting outboxed?
        Even the most hardcore Wilder fans know that he has no skills whatsoever.
        I 1000% agree that everyone wilder has beat is a better boxer than wilder. And your statement is 1000% correct. But why do others say it was fury that exposed wilder. If wilder has never shown skill.

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        • Cauliflower ear
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          #14
          Originally posted by Songbird
          thats a damn good answer too, on a roll here
          Thank you mate, i apprieciate it.

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          • jglvz256
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            #15
            Are there even any Wilder fans?

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #16
              They certainly sounded classy when they were being racist towards Andre Ward.

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              • LacedUp
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                #17
                Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                AJ doesn't have skills though. hes superbly technicial. He doesn't have a slippery defense, good foot work, angles. He's literally a text book boxer as far as punching goes. What skills do you see he possess? And no disrespect. I would love to just chat with no
                Insults. If ignorant to the topic, a bigger mans job would be to tech me.
                What do you see as skills? Imo he's shown pretty good skills, for example in his first world title fight he won by pull-counter with the right hand pretty perfectly. Which other heavyweight does that right now? Not many imo.

                In his last fight he shot the left hook from the hip, another pretty cool skill that not many heavyweights do, especially at the top level.

                He throws pretty cool combinations too, i'd say the best of any current heavyweight. He throws the jab, followed by the right hand or even left hook, with the uppercut coming underneath. Don't really see any other heavyweights doing that right now.

                Plus, he actually has a pretty decent defense. Certainly better than Wilder, although not as tight as Fury. He keeps his hand up well and generally slips punches either with his footwork or by slight movements of the head.

                case in point: the parker fight. even though it was probably the worst fight ever, good distance control was showed by Joshua. That's another skill.

                So I don't really buy into him not having skills. In fact, he's by far one of the most skillful fighters today in the HW division.

                Another thing he does extremely well is to prevent his opponent from settling into the fight. he uses his physical presence to move them around, and generally attacks when they attack causing them to get frustrated.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #18
                  Wilder fans were hyping him through the roof before a rusty fury gave him a boxing lesson. I had countless arguments when people refused to admit that he was a sloppy boxer instead amd they said he is more skilled and clever than he looks 'he is unorthodox and uses angles' was one catchphrase i kept hearing.now they pretend rhey didnt rate him.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #19
                    I was about to give you a troll grade, but I think you are legit & right.

                    I criticize both guys...often lol...cuz both of these guys seem lacking to me (ironically the least lacking to me HW in talent, Fury, is lacking mentally) & the Joshua fans ARE the ones who flip out on you much more often then the Wilder fans. Idk if its a classy thing, but there clearly is more sensitivity to Joshua critiques.

                    I think part of it could even be UK Joshua fans not having a guy who can transcend the sport like we've had in US boxing several times in recent decades & like I think most of us agree Joshua can so they are more protective of "their" Ali, Floyd, Oscar or SRL since they don't get one as often.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                      AJ doesn't have skills though. hes superbly technicial. He doesn't have a slippery defense, good foot work, angles. He's literally a text book boxer as far as punching goes. What skills do you see he possess? And no disrespect. I would love to just chat with no
                      Insults. If ignorant to the topic, a bigger mans job would be to tech me.
                      How can someone be superbly technical and a textbook boxer and have no skills?

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