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  • whoseyourdaddy
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    #121
    Originally posted by glenn mcrory
    lol
    Those are the ones people support the most.

    Promoters know their target audience. People who live through these guys, to prove to themselves that they belong at the top of the sport.

    There are literally lives like Dontae’s Boxing Nation riding on the success of this guy.

    Trust me, Davis loses and Dontae finds a tree branch that supports at least 450 pounds. If only for a couple of minutes before it snaps.
    LOL that Make me LOL but seriously, you support Billy Juice Sounders, who fights bum after bum after bum.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #122
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      They weren't struggles really. Linares, somewhat. It was his first fight at 135 and his arm popped in two rounds. Pedraza? He won 10 or 11 rounds, controlled the whole thing and made Pedraza miss all night. Not remotely a struggle. I don't think Linares is a "bum", he's had a good career, gotten some good wins and has accomplished more than Davis and gotten to #1 in more divisions than Davis (i.e more than 0).

      Crolla is a "good fighter" yes. An elite or great one? No chance. Just because a fighter isn't a legend or a personal favorite doesn't make him a "bum". Like I said, Crolla is more accomplished than Davis and if both retired today he'd rank higher based on his career. Probably because he's stepped up more often. Tank is living off that Pedraza win. That's his Buster Douglas moment but there's far more depth to Crolla's resume - Perez, Barosso for example are bigger wins than Tank's and even the scalps like Yordan, Burns add a bit more depth making his overall resume superior to Tank's or Pedraza's or Ruiz', of course.

      Lomachenko-Crolla is a crap fight. It's a mandatory that's likely to be next because Commey pulled out. It's far better than anything Tank has fought in the last 2 years or will face in the next year. He's a lightweight at least. It will be dominant but to get mad at a mandatory that's happening because a champ got injured is a bit extreme. You'd sing a different tune if Tank fought him.

      Tank by your own admission and you're a huge fan of him, has never fought anything more than C level and then D level guys. It's a bit rich to criticize proven boxers who've accomplished far more, gotten to #1 in multiple divisions, often fight with men their size or bigger and it's a bit sad that Tank continues to talk trash but openly admits he doesn't want to fight the dude.
      Good post and some good arguments.

      Russell is the best fighter Loma fought. If I'm generous, I'd say he's a B-. What has Russell really done in the pros other than to be associated with TBA (to be announced)?

      Davis is up and coming at 24. His competition is at C+, similar to Loma. Hope they move to someone at their level at the B level. Are there any? Both Davis and Loma are B fighters, with the potential to be great, A.

      I can wait.
      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 02-11-2019, 09:07 PM.

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      • j0zef
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        #123
        Loma is built on reflexes. He's like pac, 34-35 is his cutoff before steep decline. Maybe earlier if he keeps fighting dudes bigger than him.

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #124
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
          Loma fought a 122lber and everyone gave him praises.

          Lies, lies and lies as usual, they praise Loma for being world champ in 3 divisions in 12 fights, for beating solid oppo back to back, not for the rigo fight.
          That rigo fight who has been pushed to happen on social media by your so called new medias, "yo, am telling ya he will expose Loma bruh"
          You guys are completely dumb and flip flop champions.

          And let's not act like rigo is on a mares level of fighting, let alone Ruiz...

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          • Shape up
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            #125
            They will literally have to dig up lomachenko for this fight to happen, he complains how they praise lomachenko, well do something about it and fight him, still being protected by papa IV

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            • Boxing_1013
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              #126
              Man boxing and fight sports seem tough some times for a fighter...You have to pound your chest and proclaim to be the man...but there are certain guys that logically you would rather avoid because the risk isn't worth the reward.

              But you lose a lot of credibility with the fans when you try and clown another fighter and act superior to them...then essentially say you don't want that fight right now lol. I like Davis as a fighter and think him and Loma could be a good scrap. But I think it would probably be a little like the Walters fight and that's why Davis probably doesn't want it right now.

              Yes Davis did better against Pedraza (giving him credit for the KO rather than a clear UD)...but that was at 130 not 135. Weight classes exist for a reason, as we have seen with Loma trying to move up in weight.

              I can see why Davis/his team would be reluctant to face Loma because if he loses bad, a lot of shine comes off of him. Just one of those paradoxes in fight sports...on one hand you can't admit that you don't want that fight right now because you are scared of losing...yet on the other hand you also look bad when you try and call him out then say you don't want that fight right now.
              Last edited by Boxing_1013; 02-11-2019, 10:21 PM.

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              • Boxing_1013
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                #127
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                Lies, lies and lies as usual, they praise Loma for being world champ in 3 divisions in 12 fights, for beating solid oppo back to back, not for the rigo fight.
                That rigo fight who has been pushed to happen on social media by your so called new medias, "yo, am telling ya he will expose Loma bruh"
                You guys are completely dumb and flip flop champions.

                And let's not act like rigo is on a mares level of fighting, let alone Ruiz...
                I have a pretty good memory about the sentiments of fans going into fights...it literally was 50/50 with people on here saying Rigo was going to win easy and expose him. After Loma made easy work of him, all of those fans disappeared overnight and turned into 'Rigo was too small' commentators.

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                • BoxHec
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Dreamking
                  AKA when Loma is 40
                  Pac is 40 and Loma still don't want to fight him at 140..

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                  • Boxing_1013
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                    #129
                    Also I think all of these fighters trying to mimic the Floyd road to success are trying to capture lightning in a bottle. Floyd was great in his younger days and lower weights and really earned his credentials. A lot of those fighters today are trying to duck and dodge and keep the zero, but they don't realize that Floyd took on some tough challengers in his early days.

                    And most importantly, for whatever reason, Floyd's model of low risk/high reward in his money May phase worked because he was the A side in boxing. He could choose to fight whoever he wanted and they would accept because the money was too much to turn down. Loma is a bigger star than Tank so if Tank hasn't raised his profile in the next 5 years why would Loma even want to fight him when Tank is ready?

                    I guess the question becomes what did Floyd do to really raise his profile...Broner was mimicking it the best, being a flashy guy that everyone loves to hate and see beaten up...I think Floyd really took off because he had all those fights with the Hispanic/Mexican fighters and that's where a huge fan base is.

                    But I just don't see Davis or anyone else really being able to emulate what Floyd did. He caught lightning in a bottle and thinking Davis can wait Loma out...why would Loma even take that fight in a few years? Davis brings no money to the table.

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                    • Outwest Exp 355
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Lies, lies and lies as usual, they praise Loma for being world champ in 3 divisions in 12 fights, for beating solid oppo back to back, not for the rigo fight.
                      That rigo fight who has been pushed to happen on social media by your so called new medias, "yo, am telling ya he will expose Loma bruh"
                      You guys are completely dumb and flip flop champions.

                      And let's not act like rigo is on a mares level of fighting, let alone Ruiz...
                      Rigo is a 122lber so where was the lie I told? And Mares was a multi division champion and people were acting like he was some stiff going into the fight.

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