Anyone else think Mikey/Spence ends up like GGG/Brook ?

[!! Shawn]

Yes. I'm not convinced Mikey is a better p4p fighter than spence. If they were the same size, I would still favor spence.

Id most definitely favor Garcia if they were the same size. He has quite a wonderful style and superbly well rounded skill set.

Unfortunately, he has neither the size, nor the reach, nor the speed of foot to get in and out to use those assets.

Fighters with his style, who rely on jabbing from the outside have real problems when they start fighting guys that have reach on them and natural size advantages.

They have trouble finding their range with the jab, and since everything come behind the jab, they can never get started.

This is what we will see from Mikey.

The only chances he will have to do work will be when spence is bullying him around the ring and throwing punches.

I can't see a situation where Mikey is going to win a fight where he is going to have to punch with spence to get his shots off.

[satiev1]

Id most definitely favor Garcia if they were the same size. He has quite a wonderful style and superbly well rounded skill set.

Unfortunately, he has neither the size, nor the reach, nor the speed of foot to get in and out to use those assets.

Fighters with his style, who rely on jabbing from the outside have real problems when they start fighting guys that have reach on them and natural size advantages.

They have trouble finding their range with the jab, and since everything come behind the jab, they can never get started.

This is what we will see from Mikey.

The only chances he will have to do work will be when spence is bullying him around the ring and throwing punches.

I can't see a situation where Mikey is going to win a fight where he is going to have to punch with spence to get his shots off.

Mikey had a tough fight at 140 lbs with lipinents a guy with 12 fights. Spence would have stopped lipinents easily. Spence has underrated boxing skills. He has a great jab and a good body attack. Mikey has also shown he can be dropped by c level fighters like rocky martinez.

[satiev1]

If they were the same size I would have bet the whole house on Mikey By KO

Based on what? He couldn't even ko lipinents a former kickboxer with 12 fights, but he's going to ko spence? Get real.

[satiev1]

I dont fault your thinking, problem is, brook was actually closer in size to GGG than Mikey is to Spence, and Spence is younger, hungrier, stronger, hits harder, and he will break Garcia.

I actually think his corner will pull him out pretty quick once they realize that Mikey punches don't have an effect on Spence, and when they see the effect that Spences punches have on Garcia.

Brooke's upper body looked thicker than ggg's, but ggg was wider. It was much closer in size.

[Mister Wolf]

Based on what? He couldn't even ko lipinents a former kickboxer with 12 fights, but he's going to ko spence? Get real.

He couldn't even KO Robert Easter a guy he hurt multiple times in the fight.

[eco1]

Based on what? He couldn't even ko lipinents a former kickboxer with 12 fights, but he's going to ko spence? Get real.

uh huh....

[R_Walken]

I feel Mikey will be better prepared than Brook ever was Mikey has been in the gym sparring guys like Edwin Valero, Pacquiao and Maidana since he first started

Im not saying he wins I still think Spence will be too much for him down the stretch but Mikey has a better chance than Brook did

Yeah I think this fact should be considered, Mikey’s been sparring ( Not
Saying it’s not the same as fighting ) HOF fighters since he was a teenager. He’s sparred some great WWs he definitely knows what to expect as far as what’s coming his way regarding Spence power but maybe not Spence’s athleticism or body attack

Not a fan of either one, but why do you people keep saying
Garcia is moving up 2 weight classes?
His last fight was at 140 vs Easter.
What am I missing?

Easter was at 135 , Lipinets before that was at 140.


Maybe I’m just trying to Convince myself that Mikey stands a chance and doesn’t
Get body bagged early like almost every other fighter jumping up 2 weight classes.

I think Mikey has maybe P4P talent may even be the best

to me Mikey’s falls under the same type of upbringing as Mayweather or Barry Bonds ,Ken Griffey , Peyton Manning. Since they could walk they’ve been immersed in the sport with mentors / family that are great at their chosen sport. Mikey’s probably forgotten more about the sport then Spence has picked up.

He’s been sparring greats and bigger fighters since he was a teenager. I give Mikey a legit chance. Spence looks the goods and has the reputation as the WW boogeyman but he’s almost 30 and who has he really fought up to this point that ls even remotely close to having the boxing brain as Garcia. Garcia maybe right he may see something he can exploit.

But I’m probably trying to convince myself and just hope that Mikey doesnt Get boot f.ucked and at least makes it a good fight.

All I know is I’m a Fan of both and this is the fight I cant wait to happen

[satiev1]

Yeah I think this fact should be considered, Mikey’s been sparring ( Not
Saying it’s not the same as fighting ) HOF fighters since he was a teenager. He’s sparred some great WWs he definitely knows what to expect as far as what’s coming his way regarding Spence power but maybe not Spence’s athleticism or body attack



Easter was at 135 , Lipinets before that was at 140.


Maybe I’m just trying to Convince myself that Mikey stands a chance and doesn’t
Get body bagged early like almost every other fighter jumping up 2 weight classes.

I think Mikey has maybe P4P talent may even be the best

to me Mikey’s falls under the same type of upbringing as Mayweather or Barry Bonds ,Ken Griffey , Peyton Manning. Since they could walk they’ve been immersed in the sport with mentors / family that are great at their chosen sport. Mikey’s probably forgotten more about the sport then Spence has picked up.

He’s been sparring greats and bigger fighters since he was a teenager. I give Mikey a legit chance. Spence looks the goods and has the reputation as the WW boogeyman but he’s almost 30 and who has he really fought up to this point that ls even remotely close to having the boxing brain as Garcia. Garcia maybe right he may see something he can exploit.

But I’m probably trying to convince myself and just hope that Mikey doesnt Get boot f.ucked and at least makes it a good fight.

All I know is I’m a Fan of both and this is the fight I cant wait to happen

Based off what? You guys over hype garcia on this forum like crazy.

[R_Walken]

Based off what? You guys over hype garcia on this forum like crazy.

I don’t think he’s over hyped on here and he wasn’t even in the conversation until recently about being a P4P

Right now with no Mayweather or Ward around there is no clear cut #1 P4P so the position is up for debate

I think Mikey is near or potentially the best fighter right now for a couple reasons

He may not have the best resume neither does Crawford but he is usually considered #1 or #2 but Mikey’s resume is decent and has never struggled or looked vulnerable no matter what style he fought.

As I’ve said this already his upbringing from the time he was a baby and being surrounded by good - great fighters / trainers since he was born has Mikey in the same class as Mayweather , Peyton Manning , Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey these athletes who are surrounded by some of their best in their sport since Children usually makes them superior talent wise and IQ wise to other athletes in the sport their age their age. They’ve been around the top since birth and are constantly surrounded by the best in the sport from their youth and that rubs off making them lightyears beyond others as far as IQ , Skills and every other attributes needed to be successful in their sport and a reason why these type of athletes are usually the best in their respective sport . They learn stuff as children that many pros may still don’t know. This is a huge advantage and I think Mikey falls into this group of elite athletes . Add in that as a teenager he was honing his skills against HOFers and some of the best in the sport for their era , while most fighters where just learning the craft or competing against just the best in their age group you’d think this has to be a huge advantage for Mikey as far as his development as a fighter and being well beyond the learning curve of almost any fighter his age.

How people within the sport wanted to and tried to sign Mikey when he became a free agent. Mayweather , Dana White , Eddie Hearn and whoever else wanted Mikey aligned with them and most want him as their Center piece. These guys either know the sport or have people who know the sport and they all wanted Mikey who has the upside of being Mex-AM and potentially having a huge fan base in the sport. But At the time he was out for over 2 years was no where near a star even among boxing fans and still being highly sought after by everyone . Mikey doesnt have the good looks of a Canelo to attract women but I bet these people believe that if they had him as their fighter they could match Mikey against the best and biggest names in the sport and he’d probably be the victor and wouldn’t have to rely on favourable judging to get some of his wins like Canelo and he’d have a good chance of becoming A star because he’s the goods not because of his looks or favourable judging or fighting his notable opponents at the right time but just based off his skills.

If he does what no one thinks can do and beats Spence he’s hands down #1 P4P , if he gets stomped out in 1 or 2 rounds and has no answers for Spence from the start then I’m wrong ( wouldn’t be the first time )

Regardless I’m hyped for the fight and just hope it’s a good one

[Armchairhero]

No I dont think so, Brook showed early in his fight with Spence that Spence can be out-boxed and frustrated. And I dont think Spence will be able to simply walk through Mikey like GGG did to Brook.

Mikey is too crafty and hits too hard for that imo. I'm still favoring Mikey in this fight, he is the technically better and more experienced of the 2.

I love mikey but to me as soon as mikey tires Spence takes over and hurts him, I can’t see it going any other way