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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #301
    Originally posted by JcLazyX210
    Manny fought a weight drained Cotto. Floyd fought a full welterweight Cotto.
    Two pounds is weight drained? Using that excuse, Floyd fought a weighty draiend Canelo.

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      #302
      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
      After he lost to Davis when moved up.
      But weren’t you saying something about mayweather beating cotto at a higher weight? I mean, leftovers are leftovers right?

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        #303
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        Two pounds is weight drained? Using that excuse, Floyd fought a weighty draiend Canelo.
        You show what you dont know about boxing to fly with that, a CW effects everybody different depending on mass and how redline they are to make weighin weight and then having to lose the extra, when you are on the wire 1lb more can kill you, 2lb is nothing to one fighter and a disaster to another.

        Cotto was effected by the 2lbs more than Canelo, if you want to break it all down bit by bit from resistance to stamina etc is was easy to see if you know what you are looking for.

        Too you 2lb is the same to all fighters lol.
        Last edited by Roadblock; 02-11-2019, 10:53 PM.

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          #304
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Two pounds is weight drained? Using that excuse, Floyd fought a weighty draiend Canelo.
          Fair enough. Funny how Manny had the Welterweight belt and Cotto a natural WW had to cut two pounds while Floyd was moving up in weight and a catchweight was agreed.

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            #305
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            But weren’t you saying something about mayweather beating cotto at a higher weight? I mean, leftovers are leftovers right?
            Your right but you can say the same thing with Hatton. Manny beat him after Floyd.

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              #306
              Originally posted by JcLazyX210
              Fair enough. Funny how Manny had the Welterweight belt and Cotto a natural WW had to cut two pounds while Floyd was moving up in weight and a catchweight was agreed.
              It aint fair enough buddy , 2lb is NOT the same for everyone, its being used in the wrong context here to win a debate.

              Its so fan talk and nothing to do with whats real.

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                #307
                Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                Your right but you can say the same thing with Hatton. Manny beat him after Floyd.
                Yes, and you can also say 140 was hatton’s best weight.

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                  #308
                  Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                  Fair enough. Funny how Manny had the Welterweight belt and Cotto a natural WW had to cut two pounds while Floyd was moving up in weight and a catchweight was agreed.
                  Is that anything like Marquez moving up two weight classes for a catch weight that Floyd didn’t bother to make? And then refused to be weighed once day of fight?

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                    #309
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    You show what you dont know about boxing to fly with that, a CW effects everybody different depending on mass and how redline they are to make weighin weight and then having to lose the extra, when you are on the wire 1lb more can kill you, 2lb is nothing to one fighter and a disaster to another.

                    Cotto was effected by the 2lbs more than Canelo, if you want to break it all down bit by bit from resistance to stamina etc is was easy to see if you know what you are looking for.

                    Too you 2lb is the same to all fighters lol.
                    You are outside of your mind if you think Cotto was more affected by two pounds than Canelo. Alvarez is a much bigger fighter than Cotto. Cotto was given plenty of time to prepare for the fight, and Manny was coming up from 140.

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                      #310
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      You are outside of your mind if you think Cotto was more affected by two pounds than Canelo. Alvarez is a much bigger fighter than Cotto. Cotto was given plenty of time to prepare for the fight, and Manny was coming up from 140.
                      Neither should have been a CW, Canelo asked for his and Cotto was forced by Arum, Cotto never wanted a CW he didnt even want his title on the line.

                      So Canelo is much bigger than Cotto , but you say the same 2lbs effected the bigger man as it did the smaller guy how can that be, you shot yourself in the foot lol.

                      Mikey from 135 last fight to 147 no CW, dont talk about Manny .

                      A quote from the bottom article says it all !

                      "One pound difference will benefit Pacquiao a whole lot more than it will Cotto. The whole issue of the catch weight is Roach trying to kill Cotto as much as possible for the fight."—Lord Hughey Windsor-Sanchez

                      Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao is the undisputed 140 pound champion and P4P King. Six time champion in five divisions and winning a record breaking four lineal championship in the process...


                      However, Pacman's current negotiation with WBO Welterweight Champion, Miguel Cotto, for their upcoming November fight earned an unprecedented criticism from Pachaters and Pacfans alike.

                      Here's what they're saying about the 143 catch weight that Team Pacqiao is insisting:

                      "What would beating-up a reluctant and drained Cotto at 143 do? He's already the Pound-For-Pound king, why would he want to be called the Drain-Your-Pounds King?"—Dennis Guillermo

                      "If Pacquiao is really the one insisting that he won’t fight Miguel Cotto above 143 pounds, then he should be ashamed. If he’s the force behind this silly argument, then he is taking the “Man” out of “Manny.”...It demeans Pacquiao, especially his well earned status as the world’s best pound for fighter, to be quibbling over two measly pounds concerning this Nov. 14 bout. Does Pacman wish to look like a bully outside of the ring? Methinks not but he is."—Michael Marley

                      "First thing's first, Miguel Cotto, at 143 pounds, could be no better than a scarecrow. The next question is what does Pacquiao achieve if he crushes a slow, hollow foe?"—Recah Trinidad

                      "One pound difference will benefit Pacquiao a whole lot more than it will Cotto. The whole issue of the catch weight is Roach trying to kill Cotto as much as possible for the fight."—Lord Hughey Windsor-Sanchez

                      ..."Cotto is predisposed to have special problems if he forces his body to reduce its weight beyond what is acceptable (and he believes it's 145 lbs). Perhaps, other boxers could do it. But not Cotto. Let us leave it at that and Pacman should look for other boxers."—dragonslayerGH

                      "A catch weight is definitely designed to help Pacquiao. That's the entire issue...the only purpose is to make it hard for Cotto. Drain him down in training, so he is weaker in the fight."—Capt. Fantabulous

                      "As for the 143 lbs. catch weight stance, I don't think it's all promotional, unless the real intention is to make Pacquiao look like a weight-draining coward cause it's working on me already. I think 145lbs. is even enough for Pacquiao. He shouldn't be demanding any more lower than that."—Victor

                      All of these comments point to one thing—Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto is a mismatch at a catch weight of 143 lbs. They are one in saying that the said catch weight will favor the P4P King and drain all of the energy of Cotto come fight night.
                      Last edited by Roadblock; 02-12-2019, 12:43 AM.

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