Why do fighters and promoters think an 0 is going to make them a star?

[CHOWWOKKA]

I think it's an easier say to hype a fighter up to casuals.

If you say this guy is a lineal champion in 2 weigh divisions. That doesn't mean much to someone who doesn't know anybetter.

But this guy has never been beaten... that speaks to everyone

[Jsmooth9876]

Laughing my balls off reading GGG comments in here as if that guy didn't try to fight Sturm and Martinez for their titles while this midget and his gay dressing promoter are running from any challenge at their own weight. Bunch of imbeciles on this site.

[sicko]

Marketing Ploy! Sadly Mayweather made the 0 far more important than it should be! I never gave a DAMN about a fighter being Undefeated personally


The Comeback Story>Staying Undefeated!

[Marchegiano]

You are looking at the wrong angle. They are abusing the ranking systems more than misleading fans.

[nacho daddy]

cotto made a career out of getting beat when he fought the best. if he lost he still made a ton of money in his next fight

[Madison Boxing]

Everyones saying that casuals recognise the 0 but which crossover stars are being made with manufactured 0s? You have to be involved in legitimate fights at some point. If noones bothering to tune into your fights because it's a mismatch youre not going to get exposure. As dislikeable as he is mayweather fought world class fighters consistently to get his 50-0, whether most of them were at their peak is open for debate but some of the opponents these guys are fightig are straight up trash.

[just the facts]

I've always said he should have been moved along quicker, he wasted his 20s in terms of pro career and his big fights didnt come along till his mid 30s, he wasnt blessed with a willing.partner at middleweight though but anyway i dont want this to turn into a golovkin thread as 99 percent of them do on here

Ggg is a perfect example of promoters using the 0 to turn them into a star.

[R_Walken]

If people don’t think fans of the sport hatdcores included are quick to dismiss a fighter , kill their buzz and drop them like a bad habit after a L

Look no further then Lubin , He was building a bit of buzz among fans viewed as a top can’t miss prospect. Takes a massive step up at 22 and Takes on a legit World Champ , something most young fighters his age wouldn’t be advised or put in that position to do . but he takes a L and got KO’d

All of a sudden no more buzz among fans he seems all but forgotten . You’d think after laying a beat down on Ishe and sending him into retirement that would get fans somewhat back on the bandwagon and get a bit of hype from it , since he’s only 23 . But it doesnt seem that way , the article of the fight has 8 comments. It Would appear now even Hardcore boxing fans could care less about a guy that had people talking 18 months ago and was being discussed as blue chip prospect and was voted prospect of the year

And I bet even if Lubin goes on a tear in a couple years and exceeds the expectations that fans / media placed on him , Lots is fans will say he isn’t sh.it and say that because he took a KO L years ago as a basically as a rookie in the sport he’s not worthy of any praise in the future, Its taken Jacobs years to get back his hype back he had before losing , Badou Jack fought one of the toughest schedules the last 3 years you’d think fans would embrace that but he’s often easily dismissed because of his KO L that he took .

Lubin will probably have to achieve two-three times as much in the ring with the 1 L to get the same buzz among fans / media then if he decided not to step up and fight Charlo when he did and just take on softer touches for years while keeping his 0

F.ucked up in a way because you’d think the Young Guy who stepped and took on a a huge challenge, something fans claim they want fighters to do more often , wouldnt or
Shouldn’t lose any hype and in fact get praised for Taking a risk like that at his age . But he didn’t and basically is forgotten about as far as a young fighter to keep a eye on , from fans and the media

And that’s exactly why the people who control the sport more often have their prospects fight no hopers for years sometimes even after they win a strap which was probably for a vacant against a no hoper and still feed them nobodies or recognizable names who should have retired years ago , they’ll do this for years even as they are a World Champ so they can maintain that 0 and keep the buzz they have created. Because more often then not when the 0 goes so does most of their buzz from media / fans and it’s on to jumping on the next undefeated prospect bandwagon

[The Big Dunn]

Networks are invested in it probably because they see and realize that Boxing fans and the media are overall basically sh.it and quick to lose interest and not support a fighter who takes a L. So yeah they’ll push that 0 also to keep the fans interest

If fans and media supported fighters and them taking A couples L wouldn’t result in them bashing them and losing interest and acting like they were never sh.it to begin with. And they still would support them I’m pretty sure the networks wouldn’t care if a fighter took Ls , they care about viewers and $ the 0 is irrelevant to them.

Why can the UFC have guys with basically a .500 record , the Media and fans will still be interested in a fighter and support and act like he’s actually decent and not a complete piece of sh.it and worthless , they will still get behind them when they fight. The media doesn’t feel the need to degrade their own sport they work in and their fans don’t feel the need to sh.it on a fighter and completely write them off if they lose. It’s looked at As not a Big deal. Boxing probably because it’s not under 1 banner and so many forces in the sport are working against each other that it results in a crab in a bucket mentality from almost everyone involved, with lots of sh.itty biased media coverage with them playing favourites and going out of their way to sh.it on different en****** that they arent aligned with and that trickles down to the fans mentality of how your supposed to be a fan of the sport and support the fighter .

I don’t know that fans do that. You can’t base how all fans react to a loss based on what you read in the forums on this site.

You do make some valid points but are missing the fact the fans are responding to the overhype from the network and the usually biased call by the announcers. Take Loma for instance. The response to his loss is more about hbo, arum and Jim acting like this was the greatest boxer ever then he loses to a tough bet in an ugly fight using the tactics many say should be employed to beat a great boxer.

UFC markets the sport more than it does the individual fighters because it is a self contained company. Boxing is isn’t so the promoters and networks market the fighters individually. This creates the over the top hype that the fans fairly respond to when a guy loses a fight the network set up for him to look spectacular in.

That’s what happened to jmw charlo a few weeks ago. Obviously in both cases of Loma and charlo there are other factors that contribute to the reaction from posters including the over the top slurpage other posters that like them do on the daily.

[R_Walken]

I don’t know that fans do that. You can’t base how all fans react to a loss based on what you read in the forums on this site.

You do make some valid points but are missing the fact the fans are responding to the overhype from the network and the usually biased call by the announcers. Take Loma for instance. The response to his loss is more about hbo, arum and Jim acting like this was the greatest boxer ever then he loses to a tough bet in an ugly fight using the tactics many say should be employed to beat a great boxer.

UFC markets the sport more than it does the individual fighters because it is a self contained company. Boxing is isn’t so the promoters and networks market the fighters individually. This creates the over the top hype that the fans fairly respond to when a guy loses a fight the network set up for him to look spectacular in.

That’s what happened to jmw charlo a few weeks ago. Obviously in both cases of Loma and charlo there are other factors that contribute to the reaction from posters including the over the top slurpage other posters that like them do on the daily.

Dunn, I agree with lots of what you wrote

But it doesn’t change that most fans will drop fighters who they claim they’re fans of like a bad habit once they take a L and are the most un loyal fans in any sport ,quick to jump on the new flavour of the month Fighter

Look at Manny, He went from his PPVs almost doing a million PPV every time out against any competitor, Gets KO against Marquez has his #s basically drop 50-65% until the Mayweather fight. Loses that and his next 2 fights aren’t even shown on PPV with the Broner fight doing 400k.

Not every fan of the sport is a unloyal POs but it sure seems the majority fall in this category

Now look at Mcgregor , Hes what essentially a .500 Fighter his last 6 fights , Yet every time he fights he does great #s. UFC fans still support and will do so even after a L

Can’t really blame the Networks or Promoters for doing their job to
Hype fighters to gets fans interest . I mean that’s their job every fighter being shown is the next Roy Jones , Mayweather or whatever ATG suits their style. Part of the game . it’s the fans who lose interest and don’t support a fighter with their wallet or eyeballs when they take a L

With Loma , I think the biggest reason he was able take a L without any damage is that TR didn’t just let the L fester in fans /media minds. Loma went and fought GRJ a fighter considered far superior to Salido like 3 months later in a fight he won. Fan / media didn’t have a chance to dwell on his L and cast him off to the dump and be forgot about . because he didn’t waste any time
And got a W off a scalp more valuable Then Salido right away. Making it easier for fans
/ media to forgive losing your 2nd fight.