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  • tokon
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    #121
    Originally posted by Liondw
    I don't think Joshua-Whyte II is a mouthwatering rematch at all.
    Not many people do!

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    • Marchegiano
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      #122
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      There we go, its always only a matter of time before we get to the WHITE MAN BLACK MAN bit. You sound like a typical American who has watched American fighters take A side status and hasnt had a problem with it but now are trying to tell me that A side status means something different.

      15 Million when Wilder made 2.5 is paying Wilder handsomely. So is 35% and so is 40%. Wilders biggest pay day is under 10, Joshuas very worst offer was 12.5. Lowball? Thats where we are at and Wilder still says MORE.

      There is paying somebody handsomely and then there is demanding too much, 40% plus fighting for undisputed sounds fair enough to me. It isnt enough for Wilder.
      I don't know what you are talking about.

      No one whined during the Floyd/Wlad reign.

      None of the Welters complained about not being paid what they're worth. It was called the Mayweather Lottery for ****'s sake.

      None of the Heavies complained about not being paid their worth. They called it the Klitschko Lottery too...for ****'s sake. And when Tyson Fury complained about the dirty, underhanded, double dealing tactics Wlad used it wasn't pay Tyson brought up was it?


      When do people whine about pay? Well you got your colorline era, you got your Don King era, and then you have your Eddie Hearn era, bud.

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      • P4Pdunny
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        #123
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        For once, I just so happen to agree with Eddie Hearn. Dillian Whyte has no leverage. Since he has no bargaining chips he is more of price taker as opposed to a price maker.

        He should have taken what was offered to him by Joshua because he has no other options. While he is a Pay per view fighter in the U.K. However, at the same time he isn't a titleholder and doesn't exactly pack a lot of meat in the seats.

        He can't even sell out Wembley or Cardiff. Sadly to say he priced himself out. One cannot come to the bargaining table empty handed and expect to make all of these outlandish demands because Anthony Joshua doesn't owe him or need him.

        He threw Whyte a lifeline but it was up to Dillian to accept it which he refused.
        I'm not even sure Whyte is a PPV fighter here moving forward. Who could he realistically fight on PPV here? Breazeale? That ain't it.

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          #124
          Originally posted by P4Pdunny
          I'm not even sure Whyte is a PPV fighter here moving forward. Who could he realistically fight on PPV here? Breazeale? That ain't it.
          Why would Whyte be a PPV here ? More importantly how in a non title fight when Wilder can't be in one without Fury or Joshua ?

          Whyte would be on PBC card and it wouldn't even make sense for him against Breazeale over here .

          Breazeales needs to go to the U.K where it's actually a very good PPV fight headliner. If he don't I can't see this fight coming off . Whyte would then be contradicting himself about self worth declining a Joshua fight with belts on the line.

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          • P4Pdunny
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            #125
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Why would Whyte be a PPV here ? More importantly how in a non title fight when Wilder can't be in one without Fury or Joshua ?

            Whyte would be on PBC card and it wouldn't even make sense for him against Breazeale over here .

            Breazeales needs to go to the U.K where it's actually a very good PPV fight headliner. If he don't I can't see this fight coming off . Whyte would then be contradicting himself about self worth declining a Joshua fight with belts on the line.
            I didn't say Whyte is PPV in the states, I don't even think he is PPV here in the UK. He fought Parker directly after the AJ/Parker fight so UK fans were exposed to Parker who also fought Fury in boxing's answer to a sleeping pill. Parker was also a former WBO titlist.

            He fought Chisora which was sold based off the 1st fight which was good and the antics that preceded the fight.

            If he fights Breazeale here, I'm not sure how they can put it as a PPV. No belt is on the line. Breazeale is an unknown quality relatively (some may remember that he got flatlined by AJ).

            I think Whyte can only be justified fighting on PPV if he's up against AJ, Wilder, Fury and that's it. You may be able to put him in a PPV with Miller in the UK because you know they'll both sell the hell outta that fight.

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              #126
              Originally posted by P4Pdunny
              I didn't say Whyte is PPV in the states, I don't even think he is PPV here in the UK. He fought Parker directly after the AJ/Parker fight so UK fans were exposed to Parker who also fought Fury in boxing's answer to a sleeping pill. Parker was also a former WBO titlist.

              He fought Chisora which was sold based off the 1st fight which was good and the antics that preceded the fight.

              If he fights Breazeale here, I'm not sure how they can put it as a PPV. No belt is on the line. Breazeale is an unknown quality relatively (some may remember that he got flatlined by AJ).

              I think Whyte can only be justified fighting on PPV if he's up against AJ, Wilder, Fury and that's it. You may be able to put him in a PPV with Miller in the UK because you know they'll both sell the hell outta that fight.
              You said you weren't sure .

              Whyte has sold out the 02...any more worthy fighter with him will be PPV in the U.K. Never a Wembley PPV , only Joshua does that .

              Breazeales is known at Barclays center but that's about it. Most people know him for his Izu win not his Joshua loss over here. Casual fans probably don't even know he fought Joshua 2 years ago ?

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                #127
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                You said you weren't sure .

                Whyte has sold out the 02...any more worthy fighter with him will be PPV in the U.K. Never a Wembley PPV , only Joshua does that .

                Breazeales is known at Barclays center but that's about it. Most people know him for his Izu win not his Joshua loss over here. Casual fans probably don't even know he fought Joshua 2 years ago ?
                I'm not sure about here in the UK. Of course with the 4 fighters I mentioned. Whyte v Ortiz, Povetkin are decent fights but even then I'm not sure they are PPV.

                Yeah, the casual fan over here won't even know who Breazeale is period. Hearn will still try to make it a PPV fight and he's going to need a good undercard to help justify people paying for it.

                I think any and everything is becoming PPV over here, off topic but you got Degale and Eubank squaring off next week for £19.99 and while its a decent fight, it's not a PPV fight.

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                • deathofaclown
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Sickmerch1990
                  Whyte is the 4th best he must know this if hearn offerd Miller.more to fight aj that's just a disgrace
                  I don't think Hearn offered Miller more, probably much less, but Miller isn't in a position to demand anything. He's lucky to be getting a shot really.

                  It also seems Whyte was not unhappy with the purse, just the rematch stipulations. He felt if he beat AJ, he should get a larger purse in the rematch, but that wasn't in the offer. It seemed AJ would still get a bigger cut in a rematch if he loses. Whyte felt that he wasn't being respected with the offer even if he wins.

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                  • Chrismart
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                    #129
                    The question is will Whyte make more money elsewhere than what he can make fighting Joshua with Hearn. I'd doubt that.

                    He seems to have settled on the offer, whatever it was. The rematch split seemed a sticking point though.
                    Judging by the interview last week, Whyte agreed to reverse the split for the rematch if Chisora beat him, and he wants Joshua to do the same. The thing is, he doesn't have the same bargaining tools as Joshua has.

                    Now, from Whyte's end, it's going to be important he gets a good opponent for the 02.
                    Hopefully he does, he's on a nice little streak at the minute.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      I'm now sure you're WBC WBA IBF. More proof you were never going to honour the bet. You have alts all over. ****ing clown.
                      Yeah sure whatever you say

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