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  • KTFOKING
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    #61
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Here's my opinion on this, whatever ST and Haymon were willing to pay to get control of sceening the fight, DAZN would pay more. If Haymon said it had to be on ST or it isn't happening, it isn't happening.

    I think Hearn is talking hypothetically about PPVs in order to illustrate how big the fight would be.

    Canelo's DAZN purses are matching his highest PPVs, which are also around a million buys mark. If DAZN would do that for Canelo, they would do it for an undisputed HW title fight.
    So you are saying what Hearn says is the final call here and he gets EVERYTHING he wants? So he gets to control UK and US TV rights? Is that what you are saying? SHO would have shown the Wilder/Fury PPVs, but right when he fights Joshua, the fight would then be on DAZN? Huh? And this is assuming the fight takes place in the states btw, as that is the only way it does over a million buys.

    And the fans aren't going to buy Hearn's excuse of why the fight isn't taking place because the other side won't agree on it happening on DAZN. At that point Wilder in this hypothetical would have just beaten Fury and would be getting a lot more love from the fans.

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    • MisanthropicNY
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      #62
      I'm convinced that Fury is going to get jobbed by the judges in the rematch again. Unless Fury knocks Wilder out, they'll either score it a draw (if it's super lopsided) or give it to Wilder and then move right into a Joshua fight.

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      • BoxOfficer
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        #63
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        I think Wilder won a couple rounds early
        Please name those rounds.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #64
          Originally posted by kafkod
          I don't think Wilder is good enough to be included with Fury and AJ. I think a 100% fight fit Fury outboxes him easily, and AJ KO's him inside 5 rounds. We'll soon see if I'm right about that.
          "outboxing" includes defensive techniques. Fury's weakness is stiffing up at the corners (ropes) when Wilder has closed exits. Fury's doom is being too tall and slow slipping shots against Wilder who can control range by just extending his arm during those exchanges.

          Now with Fury coming in significantly lighter, his punch resistance will decline. Both fighters get better every fight. Let's see how accurate Wilder is in the rematch.

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          • Cobra Curry
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            #65
            Originally posted by R_Walken
            Cool story Robbie , but it doesn’t matter nothing was settled between Wilder /Fury the first time out so hopefully there will be a decisive winner in the rematch , Fans opinion really doesn’t mean sh.it Most fans saw Golovkin beating Canelo two times but it doesn’t change the record books


            Untill then HW still has 3 uncrowned Kings all jockeying for the right to to hold the crown and be #1 without argument

            the fact is the fight was a draw which was IMo the right decision

            Yes Fury outboxed Wilder for most of the fight but I think Wilder won a couple rounds early and when he gets 2 KD one in the 12th that had Fury Lifeless for 5-6 and which at that point 90% of referees would have ended the fight ( Not saying Reiss didn’t make the right call ) i just don’t think that’s how yountake the strap off the champ

            Let them run it back and hope for 1 clear winner
            Two 10-9 rounds plus two 10-8's gives us Wilder 112, Fury 114.

            Wilder needed the KO, he didn't get it.
            He lost.
            Or does the champion start a round or two up?

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            • johnnycontrolet
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              #66
              Isn’t it funny that Eddie now talks about PPV buys in the US....thought Dazn is his important US partner😂

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #67
                Originally posted by filup79
                AJ has the belts because he brought in the money and nothing else. He beat 2 title holders that were just that, belt holders who were fortunate enough to win vacant belts. Martin and Parker aren't no top HWs and its been shown. They chose to fight AJ instead of Wilder for the money, nothing wrong with that. AJ did beat an old inactive Wlad who was coming off a loss. AJs resume looks good because of the names, but lets not act like any are world class HWs. The whole HW division is crap besides Wilder,Fury and AJ.
                Who has Wilder beat to be included alongside Joshua and Fury? He already lost to one of them. People keep trying to push Wilder up to be in contention for the top spot and he simply isn't. He's alongside Whyte, Povetkin etc a step below. Wilder never attempted to make any unification fights stop lying. The only reason this nonsense is happening is because he's American, there'd be no hype around the joke if he wasn't.
                Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 02-07-2019, 11:54 AM.

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                • R_Walken
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BoxOfficer
                  Please name those rounds.
                  Didn’t score the fight but after Watching I didn’t have a problem with a draw , I’m a fan of Both but don’t think you can take the strap off the Champ when you’re lyig lifeless on the canvass for 5-6 seconds in the 12th

                  And if it was any other ref but Reiss , that fight would have ended and no one would have had a issue with it


                  Originally posted by Cobra Curry
                  Two 10-9 rounds plus two 10-8's gives us Wilder 112, Fury 114.

                  Wilder needed the KO, he didn't get it.
                  He lost.
                  Or does the champion start a round or two up?
                  I get how scoring works.

                  All these Sudden Fury fans who know dam.n well if that fight happend in the UK and Wilder was British that fight would have ended , crying about he got shafted or if the tables were turned and Wilder was lying on his back in the 12th they wouldn’t have still been crying that the fight should have been stopped

                  You can’t honestly say the challenger deserves the belt after winning 7-8 rounds but getting KD 2x in the last 4 rounds And once in the 12th where he laid lifeless for 5-6 seconds ,in which no one could have complained if the fight was called right then

                  Let the rematch settle it
                  Last edited by R_Walken; 02-07-2019, 12:03 PM.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    So you are saying what Hearn says is the final call here and he gets EVERYTHING he wants? So he gets to control UK and US TV rights? Is that what you are saying? SHO would have shown the Wilder/Fury PPVs, but right when he fights Joshua, the fight would then be on DAZN? Huh? And this is assuming the fight takes place in the states btw, as that is the only way it does over a million buys.

                    And the fans aren't going to buy Hearn's excuse of why the fight isn't taking place because the other side won't agree on it happening on DAZN. At that point Wilder in this hypothetical would have just beaten Fury and would be getting a lot more love from the fans.
                    It's not a question of Hearn getting what he wants, but of DAZN and Sky getting their contractual rights. It would have to be on Sky in the UK, because AJ would have to pay a massive penalty fee if he broke his contract with them.

                    We know that Hearn's contract with DAZN gives them first dibs on all his fights, in the US and the UK. If they want a fight, and they match the highest offer from anybody else, they get it. And they would match anything ST was prepared to pay.

                    AJ is going to be paid as much for fighting Miller as Canelo earned for his first fight with GGG, and that sold 1.3million PPVs on HBO.

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                    • Calibaloc
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by filup79
                      If that was AJ knocking down Fury the way Wilder did and if the fight was in the UK, the ref would have stopped it. Refs in the UK and for that matter on DAZN have been stopping fights early.
                      This is a FACT. No doubt about it. Especially if its "their" guy that is got the knock down.

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