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  • #61
    Originally posted by kushking View Post
    Lmao at all these hypocritical loma fans,contradicting everything they constantly say about other far more distinguished fighters whenever its their overrated hypejob Lomachenko who has still yet to face a truly elite opponent his size yet is coronated p4p by racist good old boys like Atlas after 5 fights.

    no matter how much his fans say otherwise Loma is taller than Mikey with a longer reach,& he fought at 135 lb equivalent entire time he was in Olympic's,So hes a natural 135 lb fighter at least,meaning (obviously) hes the weight bully being protected by Arum & his Wbo puppets who match him against c levels like Linares(his best win,who I DO give him credit for because he was a "champ",but hes ALWAYS been the typical south am level with glass jaw) then they claim hes the next Ali & continue matching him with fighters other fighters would be crucified facing(crucified by his same fans defending him)

    Linares is a good win only because he was paper champ & slightly bigger than loma. But the rest were overmatched & not elite(unproven or undersized & coming off beatings at lower weights)
    Khan Jr you mean.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
      Loma's boring and got put on his ass by Linares. Tank D. be sending opponents to the moon. (TMT)
      Quit hating you fool! So what if Loma got dropped by Linares?? It's boxing! It comes with the territory...
      I know you're a fuccing idiot and a hater who doesn't give any non-black fighters any props but you gotta keep it real!
      Loma is not boring and he's a Top 3 P4P fighter.
      I like Davis and I think it would be a great fight between Loma and Davis.
      Davis is still young and a great fighter and I hope he does fight Loma someday...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
        I think you are the most realest poster on here. You have had your whole integrity spat and stepped on , yet you pull yourself together and still post. You are amazing. You are dead wrong as always but I salute you
        😂🤣 Yeah Big Dunny exposed that fool for the idiot he is but he really has no shame...
        He's still on here posting ****** shet as usual....
        He just doesn't get it....

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        • #64
          Originally posted by kushking View Post
          I'll give you 2 examples that instantly demonstrate that Lomas fans' claims are not serious,as they rate lomas comparatively weak resume as superior & sht all over
          Mikey/Canelo,who have the best resumes in boxing by far yet most these loma fans sht on them & their resume both from day 1 & they still laughably say what Atlas claimed since loma had like 4-5 fights

          "lomas resume is p4p #1,because hes fighting "champs" with so few fights"

          yet he actually went way down in weight from his entire olympic career,& racist teddy leaves out that he is 30 yrs old & was the huge favorite in those fights vs unproven opponents due to his 2x gold medals & several of his opponents were coming off/had been destroyed at lower weights even his last opponent was kod by Tank easily at a lower weight,Loma still went 12 with him & he had done fckall to bounce back after the davis loss(he best 3 D levels 2 of which warent even 12 rd fights)

          Ward got sharded on the same before he retired & still gets shat on by most of them. Lomas wins below 135 should not in any way shape or form warrant him being p4p, & he legit lost vs Salido,so that should also come into play as should that he was losing & was kd by glasschin linares(I will give loma 1 thing he had heart to ko linares late;Linares should be ashamed he folded as usual)

          But my entire pt is that when lomas resume is viewed objectively & Age,weight etc. is accounted for its not nearly as impressive as espn media/fans claim. And theres several fighters more worthy of being p4p because they didn't stay in ams til old age then go down j n weight as a pro. Lomas an excellent fighter who is elite but he s nowhere near proven enough to warrant his hype nor to warrant other fighters being shat on in comparison.
          How did he got down in weight when he turned pro? Olympic boxing lightweight is 132 same day weigh-ins. A lot of guys "move down" when they turn pro. In pro boxing the weigh-in is the day of the fight and the lightweight division is 135 lbs. That's a huge difference you either haven't learned about or refused to acknowledge for an agenda. You also forget that he was really a featherweight (olympics 125 same day weigh-in) that simply moved to 132 in London for the challenge since he'd already won 125. Either forgot or didn't know and/or refused to acknowledge for agenda driven purposes. Kind of like how Mikey is now at 147. Doesn't make him a 147 fighter.

          You cry about all that (which can be factually taken apart) then say "legit lost to Salido", when you either know and forgot or didn't watch it and didn't know that Salido didn't attempt to make weight and refused to step on the scale the next day and threw nothing but low blows espacing with a highly debatable split decision in his 2nd pro fight. That's significant because we hear from folks like you that the amateurs don't mean **** either.

          Also, LOL at Mikey having "by far the best resume in boxing". Crawford gets a lot of crap but his resume is far superior. I'm not even sure Mikey has faced a top 50 p4p guy either. At least Loma has Walters (who was 130 before him), Rigo, Linares who were at least all in the top 10-15 vicinity and Russell who's clearly proven to be an excellent boxer and he's supposed to be a crap fighter with a terrible resume. I'm willing to harbor a guess you were proven wrong on at least two of those fights like many here. Funny the folks that were most adamant he'd lose said fights are the one's now most adamant that the wins were awful and meant nothing and attached a bunch of excuses to them later.
          Last edited by chrisJS; 02-06-2019, 12:39 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
            I still liked the fight. Mares is ranked #5-6 in a VERY stacked division. And IMO would of been Davis toughest fight yet. Like I said I had $$$ on him to make it 6 rounds. He has the experience and went 24 rounds with Leo.
            In terms of experience and knowledge, yes, he was but in terms of career trajectory and size, no. I felt Mares was being fed to him. I've seen Mares out and about a few times (in the Downey area) and he's a very small featherweight. Santa Cruz is quite a lot bigger than him and Leo isn't a big featherweight either. The last time Mares fought a big hitter he got iced in a round, now fighters get caught cold it happens but everything factored in I just viewed it as the mismatch it was and I had no interest. Being that I like Mares I am glad it didn't happen.

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            • #66
              This thread is sad. Nothing Tank said is false but because it doesn't make Loma look like the best ever some of his fans are have come in here to bad mouth Tank.

              Guys, all of you need to accept the fact that even though you like a guy and think he is great, when you get to the top you change the way you move because you are expected to keep filling arenas, getting ratings and selling PPV's.

              Loma fighting smaller guys doesn't in any way make him lesser of a boxer. All it does is show that you have different opponents once you establish yourself than when you are on the come up.

              It shifts from being about the quality of the fight to the skills of the fighter that the network thinks people want to see. They also don't want to risk a "bad loss" like a Donaire/Rigo situation because that messes up future plans.

              can't we all try and look at this as educated, experienced boxing diehards that understand the business rather than just partisan fans.

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              • #67
                Davis doesn't want to start that. Loma has fought way better opposition than Davis has. Davis has been inactive and fight smaller guys whenever he does fight. It's very hard to see his true potential.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                  In terms of experience and knowledge, yes, he was but in terms of career trajectory and size, no. I felt Mares was being fed to him. I've seen Mares out and about a few times (in the Downey area) and he's a very small featherweight. Santa Cruz is quite a lot bigger than him and Leo isn't a big featherweight either. The last time Mares fought a big hitter he got iced in a round, now fighters get caught cold it happens but everything factored in I just viewed it as the mismatch it was and I had no interest. Being that I like Mares I am glad it didn't happen.
                  I like Mares too. I dint think he really had a chance to win tho. I agree Im actually happy the fight dint come off. I agree he was being feed to the lions. Don't want to see him become a gate keeper. Seems like a good guy. On the other hand would like to see Leo or Russell step up and give it a go.

                  Folks hating on Loma. The name of the game is boxing and Loma was involved in the WBA fight of the year so not that boning. Just cuz a guys got power don't mean hes gonna roll over a slick boxer. Loma beat Russell whos pretty good in my option, this in is 3rd pro fight and after a loss no less.

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                  • #69
                    Davis got jokes. Lmao. Loma could still fight at 126 or 130 while Tank can barely make 130 anymore.

                    And he forgets that ruiz started at 118 and only even had one fight at 126 and that was vs a last second repalcment. He don’t even know if Ruiz is even decent at 126 let alone 130 lmao.

                    Ruiz is basically a 122 pounder. Like I said. Tank gots jokes.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by P4P Forever View Post
                      I like Mares too. I dint think he really had a chance to win tho. I agree Im actually happy the fight dint come off. I agree he was being feed to the lions. Don't want to see him become a gate keeper. Seems like a good guy. On the other hand would like to see Leo or Russell step up and give it a go.

                      Folks hating on Loma. The name of the game is boxing and Loma was involved in the WBA fight of the year so not that boning. Just cuz a guys got power don't mean hes gonna roll over a slick boxer. Loma beat Russell whos pretty good in my option, this in is 3rd pro fight and after a loss no less.
                      Yeah, if Russell was still unbeaten and hadn't lost to Lomachenko he'd be getting a way stronger push. In fact he'd likely have legions saying he'd beat Loma and that Loma ducked him.

                      The one fight a year schedule doesn't bother some fans so that's unlikely to have stopped him gaining fans but maybe the solid wins over Jhonny Gonzalez (fresh off a KO of an unbeaten Mares) or JoJo Diaz are too legit compared to fighting guys like Cuellar, Diaz, Macias and whats his face.

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