Have your views on a Dillian Whyte vs. Deontay Wilder fight changed?

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  • PotentialToast
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    #11
    Whyte and Wilder both have lights out power. Whyte's though is a shortish punch that he generally finds a way to land: Chisora never been sparked out, nor Browne and Parker has an elite chin.

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      #12
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      I think a lot of both sides were grounded after the Fury fight. I was in the minority expectations of a Fury K.O so nothing really changed for me regarding Whyte who still should lose but anyone thinking Wilder destroys him continues to ignore reality , he has never destroyed anyone who's fit and ready. If Whyte can develop a better right hand it's a 50/50 type fight .
      Im on record saying I thought Fury would stop Wilder. He just won't take the chance I reckon. He stunned Wilder more than once but wouldn't capitalize on it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Not really, I still think Wilder still ices him. The only thing that’s changed is Whyte has now earned and deserves a shot at either AJ or Wilder. I’m not a fan of Whyte, but I feel a great deal of sympathy for how he’s been treated by AJ/Hearn in the current negotiations, the way they have lowballed and now sidestepped him is disgusting, especially considering he is signed to Hearn/Matchroom
        Disgusted at a "lowball" offer of $6million+ and a guaranteed 50/50 split for a rematch?

        You must have been outraged when Wilder/Haymon gave Ortiz only $500k to fight Wilder, with them both being signed to PBC.

        And Breazeale being continually sidestepped by Wilder and forced to hang around forever begging for a title shot and not getting it, despite being Deontay's mandatory challenger and a fellow PBC fighter ... do you find that disgusting too?
        Last edited by kafkod; 02-04-2019, 06:55 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Disgusted at a "lowball" offer of $6million+ and a guaranteed 50/50 split for a rematch?

          You must have been outraged when Wilder/Haymon gave Ortiz only $500k to fight Wilder, with them both being signed to PBC.

          And Breazeale being continually sidestepped by Wilder and forced to hang around forever begging for a title shot and not getting it, despite being Deontay's mandatory challenger and a fellow PBC fighter ... do you find that disgusting too?
          Whyte is a far bigger draw than Ortiz and according to most of you nut huggers AJ is a far bigger draw than Wilder. Therefore making your comparison irrelevant just like your opinion.

          I have it on very good authority that Whyte was offered less against AJ than he earned against Chisora. As Whyte’s promoter Hearn is obliged to get his fighter the best deal possible, he evidently isn’t doing that for Whyte.

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            #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Whyte is a far bigger draw than Ortiz and according to most of you nut huggers AJ is a far bigger draw than Wilder. Therefore making your comparison irrelevant just like your opinion.

            I have it on very good authority that Whyte was offered less against AJ than he earned against Chisora. As Whyte’s promoter Hearn is obliged to get his fighter the best deal possible, he evidently isn’t doing that for Whyte.
            Hearn is AJ's promoter too, you muppet, just like Haymon is both Wilder and Ortiz's "advisor"

            Should Uncle Al have "advised" Wilder to give Ortiz a 60/40 split, in order to fullfill his obligations to Ortiz?

            If he had, do you think Wilder would have said, "Ok Al" and gone ahead and done it?

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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Whyte is a far bigger draw than Ortiz
              And AJ is a far bigger draw than Wilder, when he isn't fighting Tyson Fury, which is why Wilder vs Ortiz wasn't a PPV fight.

              Did you really need that pointing out, or are you just playing dumb to avoid the truth?

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                #17
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Hearn is AJ's promoter too, you muppet, just like Haymon is both Wilder and Ortiz's "advisor"

                Should Uncle Al have "advised" Wilder to give Ortiz a 60/40 split, in order to fullfill his obligations to Ortiz?

                If he had, do you think Wilder would have said, "Ok Al" and gone ahead and done it?
                As I explained your comparison is completely irrelevant you little cretin.
                AJ-Whyte is a far bigger fight than Wilder-Ortiz was.

                All things considered (failing a PED test, not being a draw whatsoever etc) Ortiz got a good deal. It’s not like he can go and make that kind of money anywhere else. Whyte on the other hand can and has against Chisora. Hearn offered Whyte less against AJ than he received against Chisora.

                All you Hearniac ******s get fooled by the classic flat fee, without analysing the PPV split.

                I putting you on ignore anyway, you’re deluded kid...

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                • kafkod
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  As I explained your comparison is completely irrelevant you little cretin.
                  AJ-Whyte is a far bigger fight than Wilder-Ortiz was.

                  All things considered (failing a PED test, not being a draw whatsoever etc) Ortiz got a good deal. It’s not like he can go and make that kind of money anywhere else. Whyte on the other hand can and has against Chisora. Hearn offered Whyte less against AJ than he received against Chisora.

                  All you Hearniac ******s get fooled by the classic flat fee, without analysing the PPV split.

                  I putting you on ignore anyway, you’re deluded kid...
                  What happened to all that, "Dillian Shyte ain't a draw and he got busted for PEDs too, just like Ortiz" crap that I was seeing from you guys till quite recently?

                  Bye bye, hypocrite.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 02-05-2019, 08:29 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Disgusted at a "lowball" offer of $6million+ and a guaranteed 50/50 split for a rematch?
                    50/50 in the rematch? Where you pulling that info from?

                    Last I heard (from a Dillian Whyte video interview), they wanted the rematch clause with the same split as the first fight. And that was an interview on Saturday night.

                    I'm not aware of any new "50/50 in rematch" offer?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by W1LL
                      50/50 in the rematch? Where you pulling that info from?

                      Last I heard (from a Dillian Whyte video interview), they wanted the rematch clause with the same split as the first fight. And that was an interview on Saturday night.

                      I'm not aware of any new "50/50 in rematch" offer?
                      I heard that interview. Whyte is playing PR games there, trying to get people on his side by only talking about the initial offer he recieved, not the latest offer, in which the rematch money was changed to 50/50

                      He does exactly the same thing in this IFL interview, then tries to talk over Hearn and keep the discussion focused on the first offer while Hearn is explaining that the rematch clause had been amended to 50/50.

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