Comments Thread For: Wilder Advises Whyte To Eliminate Hearn, Sign With PBC

[Ake-Dawg]

I have already helped you but you are trying to change the whole narrative. Have put the numbers out there for you. So please show me where they would find 14m dollars for Wilder. From an event that sold 325k, where 250k is there break even point. We haven’t calculated the undercard fighters pay. Fury pay, networks, distributors etc so instead of posting phantom articles from tabloids, try and do the calculations yourself.

Repeating ignorance doesn't make you right. You did little to no calculation yourself and used the 250k as break even which was incorrect.

[Ray*]

Repeating ignorance doesn't make you right. You did little to no calculation yourself and used the 250k as break even which was incorrect.

Again educate me. I want to see your numbers, how he came to making 14m dollars. Have tried to help you. IMDAZE has come to help you since you are now out of your depth. Before you call me out or throw fake numbers around just remember am not one of youse fangirls. I would call out anyone and anything.

[IMDAZED]

So if Warren wasn’t lying it meant am right that Stephen Espinoza was lying. Because he claimed Warren was lying and monies wasn’t not coming from BT sport.

45-50% of PPV revenues in America goes to the distributors, 10% goes to the networks, we haven’t count the undercard fighter monies. We haven’t touch on Fury’s money unless he is keeping whatever was sold by BT sports at 5am in the UK. Adding everything together and telling me Wilder made 8 figures is unbelievable.

Re: Warren, no it doesn’t mean that.

Second, your #’s are off. 10% doesn’t go the network. They’re paid on a staggered rate, which changes as the numbers hit a certain tier. It may be 7% for the first $5m, 100% for 5-6, 1% for 6-7, etc. It seems everyone read the same article and assumed the numbers you posted are true across the board and remain so forever. False.

Third, you’re not counting for closed circuit to the bars, movie theaters etc, which is given to one operator to distribute to a multitude of parties at a negotiated rate.

There is often a delayed broadcast fee as well. Further fees for international rights that we have no idea how they are distributed. Sponsors. Etc etc. You don’t want it to be believable, but I’d advise you to do a little more research before saying that an executive of a publicly traded firm is fudging the books or lying to shareholders publicly, and then arguing against his statement using dated PPV info.

[Noelanthony]

Re: Warren, no it doesn’t mean that.

Second, your #’s are off. 10% doesn’t go the network. They’re paid on a staggered rate, which changes as the numbers hit a certain tier. It may be 7% for the first $5m, 100% for 5-6, 1% for 6-7, etc. It seems everyone read the same article and assumed the numbers you posted are true across the board and remain so forever. False.

Third, you’re not counting for closed circuit to the bars, movie theaters etc, which is given to one operator to distribute to a multitude of parties at a negotiated rate.

There is often a delayed broadcast fee as well. Further fees for international rights that we have no idea how they are distributed. Sponsors. Etc etc. You don’t want it to be believable, but I’d advise you to do a little more research before saying that an executive of a publicly traded firm is fudging the books or lying to shareholders publicly, and then arguing against his statement using dated PPV info.

You sound intelligent. I was wrong about you

[Ray*]

Re: Warren, no it doesn’t mean that.

Second, your #’s are off. 10% doesn’t go the network. They’re paid on a staggered rate, which changes as the numbers hit a certain tier. It may be 7% for the first $5m, 100% for 5-6, 1% for 6-7, etc. It seems everyone read the same article and assumed the numbers you posted are true across the board and remain so forever. False.

Third, you’re not counting for closed circuit to the bars, movie theaters etc, which is given to one operator to distribute to a multitude of parties at a negotiated rate.

There is often a delayed broadcast fee as well. Further fees for international rights that we have no idea how they are distributed. Sponsors. Etc etc. You don’t want it to be believable, but I’d advise you to do a little more research before saying that an executive of a publicly traded firm is fudging the books or lying to shareholders publicly, and then arguing against his statement using dated PPV info.

Firstly Stephen lied in regards to warren. He claimed Warren never said the 50m was coming from BT sport.... This was confirmed by Warren on camera and Lou di Bella also confirmed it.

Secondly even if the international rights and close circuit TV/sponsorship no way would Wilder alone make 10m dollars on top of that. The other fighters on the card are not fighting for free.

And finally am going by % that is well used in America, give or take the % are in the ball park of how the splits are worked out. Like I have said repeatedly in the past if Wilder and Fury did make that figure then more power to them... You haven’t seen anyone work it out to the point where it looked plausible.

[IMDAZED]

Firstly Stephen lied in regards to warren. He claimed Warren never said the 50m was coming from BT sport.... This was confirmed by Warren on camera and Lou di Bella also confirmed it.

Secondly even if the international rights and close circuit TV/sponsorship no way would Wilder alone make 10m dollars on top of that. The other fighters on the card are not fighting for free.

And finally am going by % that is well used in America, give or take the % are in the ball park of how the splits are worked out. Like I have said repeatedly in the past if Wilder and Fury did make that figure then more power to them... You haven’t seen anyone work it out to the point where it looked plausible.

I’m going to ignore the Warren comment. Distracting and irrelevant to the general topic.

There is no way Wilder hits $10m?

Ok.

Please break down how much they got for international rights across Europe, Asia and Norrh America, closed circuit, sponsors, etc. Surely you know all the revenue streams and what was negotiated. Btw, the undercard fighters you speak of, in total, probably cost 3m or so and that’s being generous.

[Ray*]

I’m going to ignore the Warren comment. Distracting and irrelevant to the general topic.

There is no way Wilder hits $10m?

Ok.

Please break down how much they got for international rights across Europe, Asia and Norrh America, closed circuit, sponsors, etc. Surely you know all the revenue streams and what was negotiated.

No I don’t know all the revenue. Doesn’t matter what the revenue is. For one that was Wilder first fight on PPV so it wouldn’t be a great number. Let’s give them another 20 million dollars on everything. And it still don’t think he makes another 10m dollars on top of his 4m dollars guarantee. If Pac/Broner could lose money after selling 400k and paying Pacman 20m then no way did Wilder see 14m.

[Ake-Dawg]

Again educate me. I want to see your numbers, how he came to making 14m dollars. Have tried to help you. IMDAZE has come to help you since you are now out of your depth. Before you call me out or throw fake numbers around just remember am not one of youse fangirls. I would call out anyone and anything.

Firstly Stephen lied in regards to warren. He claimed Warren never said the 50m was coming from BT sport.... This was confirmed by Warren on camera and Lou di Bella also confirmed it.

Secondly even if the international rights and close circuit TV/sponsorship no way would Wilder alone make 10m dollars on top of that. The other fighters on the card are not fighting for free.

And finally am going by % that is well used in America, give or take the % are in the ball park of how the splits are worked out. Like I have said repeatedly in the past if Wilder and Fury did make that figure then more power to them... You haven’t seen anyone work it out to the point where it looked plausible.

No matter what anyone says to you, you will contend that an industry source is lying or is biased or just wrong. You are too full of yourself to acknowledge even that you are too uneducated on American ppv to contend that Wilder and Fury didn't make eight figures. Which is why I'm done. Good luck convincing someone to do the numbers for you.

[Ray*]

No matter what anyone says to you, you will contend that an industry source is lying or is biased or just wrong. You are too full of yourself to acknowledge even that you are too uneducated on American ppv to contend that Wilder and Fury didn't make eight figures. Which is why I'm done. Good luck convincing someone to do the numbers for you.

Go and sit down somewhere quiet. You have zero input. You have been ousted as a fangirl. Am actually learning from IMDAZE. Your input is as much as the LDBC on YouTube.

[IMDAZED]

No I don’t know all the revenue. Doesn’t matter what the revenue is. For one that was Wilder first fight on PPV so it wouldn’t be a great number. Let’s give them another 20 million dollars on everything. And it still don’t think he makes another 10m dollars on top of his 4m dollars guarantee. If Pac/Broner could lose money after selling 400k and paying Pacman 20m then no way did Wilder see 14m.

Not sure who told you Pac-Broner lost money. But that’s another irrelevant point (and also false).

You are now adding, for the sake of argument, another $20m. Let’s say it generates $50m total. $15m or so goes to operators, another 3-5 to network, another 3 to undercard, and add another couple mil for operating expenses. Take a guess which guys get the rest?