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  • Ray*
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    #141
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Please explain.
    Explain why a guy that is affiliated with Wilder, would claim Wilder and Fury would make 8 figures? That’s self explanatory.

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    • Noelanthony
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      #142
      Originally posted by Phenom
      How much you reckon the purse handed over to the commission would be? Let's get little wager on mate under $5M?
      Your guess is as good as mine

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        #143
        Originally posted by Ray*
        Explain why a guy that is affiliated with Wilder, would claim Wilder and Fury would make 8 figures? That’s self explanatory.
        No, it’s not. It was an article on boxingscene regarding how PPV works and what may change. So no, he’s not some promoter making wild claims.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          Your guess is as good as mine
          Comon mate this is Anthony Joshua we talking about he makes 40M fighting no name bum from around the block he draw 100K crowd fighting a queen guard wouldn't he

          If he fights Miller in NYC it would be the 1st time his purse would be released to the public since the Klitschko fight let's get over under bet going

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            #145
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            No, it’s not. It was an article on boxingscene regarding how PPV works and what may change. So no, he’s not some promoter making wild claims.
            I would love to see that article and how Wilder would end up with 8 figures after only guaranteeing 4m dollars and only selling 325k on PPV/ticket sales. Espinoza is a known liar, he was caught out recently with the 50m dollars offer, where he claimed Warren wasn’t involve, then Lou do Bella came out and said Warren and BT sport were indeed involve. So yeah I believe it’s all propaganda from Steve the liar.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Phenom
              Comon mate this is Anthony Joshua we talking about he makes 40M fighting no name bum from around the block he draw 100K crowd fighting a queen guard wouldn't he

              If he fights Miller in NYC it would be the 1st time his purse would be released to the public since the Klitschko fight let's get over under bet going
              I’m a professional gambler if there is a term, I bet to win not guesstimate for the crack of it. I don’t have 3 Hublot for nothing . In fact I only have 1 I just thought I would say 3 so you would think I was rich like WBC WBA IBF GUY

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                #147
                Originally posted by Ray*
                So please educate me, show us the 14m dollars he made from PPV, tickets sales, sponsorship etc. Because I called BS on it. Again Whyte made more money over his last two fights than Wilder made in his last two fights. This are not some educated opinion, this are from sales of his last two PPV and ticket sales, this isn’t “Hidden” monies or BS articles. Show us where he made the extra 10m dollars cut. I don’t believe that number that you pull out of thin air, that’s why am questioning it.

                I know he made 2.1m dollars from the Ortiz fight. And am even prepared to bump it up to 3.5m (Including the “Hidden Haymon monies”), against Fury he cannot make more than 8m dollars max from everything. If he made 14m then am happy for him, but we all know that’s the narrative numbers pushed by the uneducated fans, the ones trying to somehow live through him.
                Isn't it incumbent on you to prove me and the media wrong? Saying you can't see it is an obvious truism, but not necessarily the absence of truth.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  I would love to see that article and how Wilder would end up with 8 figures after only guaranteeing 4m dollars and only selling 325k on PPV/ticket sales. Espinoza is a known liar, he was caught out recently with the 50m dollars offer, where he claimed Warren wasn’t involve, then Lou do Bella came out and said Warren and BT sport were indeed involve. So yeah I believe it’s all propaganda from Steve the liar.
                  Yeah except I watched that whole Warren interview and he wasn’t lying. But that’s another story.

                  The fight generated between $35-40m domestically ALONE. Take about $15m for the distributer. Showtime’s share is nominal. Because the promoter gets a flat fee instead of a percentage, the bulk of the gate goes to the fighters. You also don’t know how much they were given in the way of sponsors, and what the international right fees were (likely substantial). To dismiss it as not possible is silly. Btw, article (on Boxingscene) broke down the break-even point for the network and the issues with decreasing costs. It wasn’t a promo for Wilder-Fury. More important, it wasn’t anything he needed to share. But as you can see, it’s not only feasible, but likely.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    Isn't it incumbent on you to prove me and the media wrong? Saying you can't see it is an obvious truism, but not necessarily the absence of truth.
                    I have already helped you but you are trying to change the whole narrative. Have put the numbers out there for you. So please show me where they would find 14m dollars for Wilder. From an event that sold 325k, where 250k is there break even point. We haven’t calculated the undercard fighters pay. Fury pay, networks, distributors etc so instead of posting phantom articles from tabloids, try and do the calculations yourself.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Yeah except I watched that whole Warren interview and he wasn’t lying. But that’s another story.

                      The fight generated between $35-40m domestically ALONE. Take about $15m for the distributer. Showtime’s share is nominal. Because the promoter gets a flat fee instead of a percentage, the bulk of the gate goes to the fighters. You also don’t know how much they were given in the way of sponsors, and what the international right fees were (likely substantial). .
                      So if Warren wasn’t lying it meant am right that Stephen Espinoza was lying. Because he claimed Warren was lying and monies wasn’t not coming from BT sport.

                      45-50% of PPV revenues in America goes to the distributors, 10% goes to the networks, we haven’t count the undercard fighter monies. We haven’t touch on Fury’s money unless he is keeping whatever was sold by BT sports at 5am in the UK. Adding everything together and telling me Wilder made 8 figures is unbelievable.

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