Comments Thread For: Wilder: Fury a Man of His Word, 100% Rematch Will Get Done

[Noelanthony]

You don't get it. Yet...

Why did Klitschko offer Wilder step aside money to fight Stiverne for the vacant WBC belt?
Why did Shelly Finkel say Wilder was too much of a baby heavyweight to fight Klitschko?
Why did Joshua overpay Martin, who won the IBF title on a technicality?
Why did Joshua offer Parker a percentage?
Why DIDN'T Joshua offer a percentage to Wilder? Wilder was champion before Martin and Parker. Why not fight him first if he was so easy to beat?

If you can't see that Klitschko, Martin, Parker and Joshua believed that Wilder was the better fighter (at the time), then you need to open your eyes a little wider.

Wilder was avoided. His own manager refused to put him in with his cash cow (Klitschko), much like Freddie Roach refusing to allow Pacquiao to fight Crawford in a legacy defining fight. Joshua was considered green and beatable so Martin, Klitschko and Parker chose to fight him over Wilder. And when it came time for Joshua to fight Wilder, he continually moved the goal posts to avoid fighting him.

Then Fury stepped up and gave Joshua more confidence about his chances against Wilder. Joshua demanded the Wilder fight and all he had to say was: Wembley, April 13th, 50/50. It not only would have been acceptable to Wilder, but also to Fury's team, who wanted Fury to fight a lighter touch after that horrific knockdown. But of course, the offer was never made, Wilder's performance was ridiculed and the Fury rematch is going ahead as planned.

I want to see Wilder-Joshua as much as any boxing fan. But Joshua had every opportunity to get Wilder in the ring before the Wilder-Fury rematch and has dropped the ball each and every time. Hopefully he makes the fight happen after the rematch and hopefully he shows up to the Wilder-Fury fight this time, so that there's a built up interest in seeing him fight the winner.

Lololololol. You have totally lost it. The fact that you have put so much effort in formulating this post I will not ridicule it too much.

Wilder was avoided for 10 years fighting 39 brave opponents that were not intimidated by his reputation. Even miraculously getting floored by a journeyman called Harry Scoiners in his 13th fight( I bet you didn’t know that) The 2 opponents he finally stepped up to he was nearly knocked out by one and he lost the other one.Perhaps you need to take off those rose tinted glasses

Wilder has never in his life given an opponent 50/50 and he has one belt with no commercial appeal. If he has never done it why should Joshua do it and he has 4 belts? I should capture you and take you to the lab for testing!

Just to nullify your point why did Wilder offer Stiverne Step aside money ? I don’t think out of fear do you? Why did Fury relinquish his IBF belt to rematch Klitschko do you think that was out of fear too?

At this late stage of your life there is no convincing you of the dynamics you are too far gone. Just be careful my brother and do not believe anything they promise you

[vitali1999]

It’s a****ng that hype job great African American hope lasted that long with protection from the wbc and Pbc. Joke.

Yes don't forget him and his team for picking all the bums they did leading up to his title fight with Stiverne

[davefromvancouv]

Lololololol. You have totally lost it. The fact that you have put so much effort in formulating this post I will not ridicule it too much.

Whatever...

Wilder was avoided for 10 years fighting 39 brave opponents that were not intimidated by his reputation. Even miraculously getting floored by a journeyman called Harry Scoiners in his 13th fight( I bet you didn’t know that) The 2 opponents he finally stepped up to he was nearly knocked out by one and he lost the other one.Perhaps you need to take off those rose tinted classes

Wilder was obviously moved much slower than Joshua (and I did know about Sconiers. So what? It's boxing). But when he declined Klitschko's offer to step aside and fought Stiverne for the vacant WBC belt, he was ready to take on all comers. He was the only one who had the guts to fight Ortiz, who continues to be aged out by all the other top heavyweights, and Fury is the lineal champion, the top heavyweight in the world, for a reason. Again, it's boxing.

Wilder has never in his life given an opponent 50/50 and he has one belt with no commercial appeal. If he has never done it why should Joshua do it and he has 4 belts? I should capture you and take you to the lab for testing!

Fighting in the States is much different than fighting in the UK. There is a lot more competition for commercial appeal. And once again, the fight was right there. The final prize. 50/50 would have done it. Fury would have stepped aside, Joshua and Hearn would have been taken seriously and Wilder would have had no choice. But instead Joshua told the world to sleep on Wilder-Fury, then continued to play games at the negotiating table, not realizing that was the EXACT wrong thing to do...

Just to nullify your point why did Wilder offer Stiverne Step aside money ? I don’t think out of fear do you? Why did Fury relinquish his IBF belt to rematch Klitschko do you think that was out of fear too?

I didn't say Wilder. I said Klitschko offered Wilder step aside money to fight Stiverne. And Fury lost interest in fighting after the Klitschko fight, as is well documented.

At this late stage of your life there is no convincing you of the dynamics you are too far gone. Just be careful my brother and do not believe anything they promise you

Like I said, you don't get it. Yet...

[Noelanthony]

Whatever...



Wilder was obviously moved much slower than Joshua (and I did know about Sconiers. So what? It's boxing). But when he declined Klitschko's offer to step aside and fought Stiverne for the vacant WBC belt, he was ready to take on all comers. He was the only one who had the guts to fight Ortiz, who continues to be aged out by all the other top heavyweights, and Fury is the lineal champion, the top heavyweight in the world, for a reason. Again, it's boxing.



Fighting in the States is much different than fighting in the UK. There is a lot more competition for commercial appeal. And once again, the fight was right there. The final prize. 50/50 would have done it. Fury would have stepped aside, Joshua and Hearn would have been taken seriously and Wilder would have had no choice. But instead Joshua told the world to sleep on Wilder-Fury, then continued to play games at the negotiating table, not realizing that was the EXACT wrong thing to do...



I didn't say Wilder. I said Klitschko offered Wilder step aside money to fight Stiverne. And Fury lost interest in fighting after the Klitschko fight, as is well documented.



Like I said, you don't get it. Yet...

Dave you don’t get it . WILDER HAS NEVER GIVEN AN OPPONENT 50%. He is not given Fury 50%. Why would you expect 50% if you have never given anyone 50%? U said Tyson is the best the lineal champion yet he is only being Offered 40%. If Wilder was serious about the fight he would offer 50? Or do you think Wilder is being greedy??

When you discuss Wilder I just think of this and worry for you

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[davefromvancouv]

Dave you don’t get it . WILDER HAS NEVER GIVEN AN OPPONENT 50%. He is not given Fury 50%. Why would you expect 50% if you have never given anyone 50%? U said Tyson is the best the lineal champion yet he is only being Offered 40%. If Wilder was serious about the fight he would offer 50? Or do you think Wilder is being greedy??

When you discuss Wilder I just think of this and worry for you

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He did. $50 million against 50%.

[Noelanthony]

He did. $50 million against 50%.

A pigeon doesn’t make offers to the king. I repeat Wilder has never offered 50%.

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[davefromvancouv]

A pigeon doesn’t make offers to the king. I repeat Wilder has never offered 50%.

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I see. Which conspiracy theory about the $50 million against 50% do you believe?

[Noelanthony]

I see. Which conspiracy theory about the $50 million against 50% do you believe?

Listen I don’t doubt the money was there. I have never doubted the money. Besides when Joshua came out and said he doesn’t want his fans travelling that was a big fat L for Team Joshua and me as a supporter of AJ. I call it as I see it. The money being from Bt is irrelevant after you make such a silly comment like that.

I understand why he insists on fighting Wilder at home because he is the most dangerous opponent why give him home court advantage? But nevertheless I see how it perceived as a duck. However, we have moved on from there and 40% is more than Wilder deserves and if you are being honest he should have accepted the deal because if Fury beats him then he will rue not accepting his biggest pay day

[davefromvancouv]

Listen I don’t doubt the money was there. I have never doubted the money. Besides when Joshua came out and said he doesn’t want his fans travelling that was a big fat L for Team Joshua and me as a supporter of AJ. I call it as I see it. The money being from Bt is irrelevant after you make such a silly comment like that.

I understand why he insists on fighting Wilder at home because he is the most dangerous opponent why give him home court advantage? But nevertheless I see how it perceived as a duck. However, we have moved on from there and 40% is more than Wilder deserves and if you are being honest he should have accepted the deal because if Fury beats him then he will rue not accepting his biggest pay day

There you go again. Talking about what Wilder deserves instead of talking about what it will take to make the fight and steal him away from a Fury rematch. A 50/50 split satisfies Wilder's demand and sways Fury's team to convince Fury to step aside and fight a lighter touch. Maybe... The rematch is THAT big and you also have to factor in the fact that both Wilder and Fury feel they have unfinished business. Not everybody was sleeping during the first fight...

[Noelanthony]

There you go again. Talking about what Wilder deserves instead of talking about what it will take to make the fight and steal him away from a Fury rematch. A 50/50 split satisfies Wilder's demand and sways Fury's team to convince Fury to step aside and fight a lighter touch. Maybe... The rematch is THAT big and you also have to factor in the fact that both Wilder and Fury feel they have unfinished business. Not everybody was sleeping during the first fight...

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