Comments Thread For: Wilder: Fury a Man of His Word, 100% Rematch Will Get Done

[JWHardin]

I don't think Wilder's size was the issue. His corner to me was the main issue. They gave him totally crap advice agains Fury. Wilder is on his own out there.

Size was not an issue at all. If Wilder bases his camp around the size issue then he is gonna actually lose this time.

He should just come in at his natural, fit condition, he shouldn't even be looking at the scale. He was must focus on tactics and strategy, and his skills. That was the issue. His conditioning seemed poor too, Fury seemed to have way more stamina than him. Stamina has never been an issue for Wilder until the Ortiz fight. He must be over training for these big fights or he's too anxious in there.

I also really question his corner. Throw the jab more often and attack the body! If he doesn't, he will lose.

I wonder if there is truth to him saying he broke his arm 3 months before training started for the first fight? If true, it would explain his hesitation to throw and his stamina issues, which he never had before.

[Lunchbucket]

"His team are all scared and they do not want him to fight but Tyson Fury is a man of his word."

Fury beat you the first time Wilder pretty clearly. I don't really think his team are scared of you.

[JWHardin]

"His team are all scared and they do not want him to fight but Tyson Fury is a man of his word."

Fury beat you the first time Wilder pretty clearly. I don't really think his team are scared of you.

I think the rematch is warranted. I didn't see it as Fury beating Wilder very clearly, but deserved the decision. To me you have to land more than 30 more punches than your opponent to win very clearly.

Also, with a different ref, Fury would have been waved off as a KO in the 12th 9 out of 10 times.

[Boxing Trufe]

Wilders time at the top is coming to a sad end unless he has the judges in his pocket again.

It’s a****ng that hype job great African American hope lasted that long with protection from the wbc and Pbc. Joke.

[Ray*]

They are fighting over something in the background. They obviously don’t want that to be leaked outside. Hopefully this gets sorted out soon.

[sicko]

Sounds like the fight is happening in May! Smart move by Wilder being at the Super Bowl doing Press Stuff early

[davefromvancouv]

Wilder also said immediately after his fight that the heavyweight division needs one champion. So he actually said 2 things but decided to do one. Why was that do you think? His team said we will discuss with Hearn immediately after the 1st, why do you think they did not respond to Team Joshua? Even when being offered 40%? No games? ....please

After all the games played last year, Wilder specifically said: DO NOT TALK TO ME UNLESS IT'S 50/50. Remember?

So what did Hearn do? Exactly what you're doing. Playing games... They'll probably respond when Hearn is ready to split everything down the middle. Not my place to say whether it's fair or not, but I understand. Hell, you guys are still playing games, claiming the $50 million against 50% guarantee Sky offer from Showtime wasn't real. But that was really the beginning of the end of negotiations with Hearn and Joshua. Especially after Wilder agreed to the flat fee *game* but wanted the fight to be next with a two-way rematch clause.

Joshua fought Povetkin instead and got his nose broken. Wilder fought Fury in a Fight of the Year candidate that still has a buzz to this day. Even Fury said that he'll make more in the Wilder rematch than what was offered by Hearn.

So Wilder is rematching Fury and they'll share the profits on more agreeable terms. Joshua is apparently ditching the April 13th Wembley date and is coming to New York for much less than the $50 million to fight Miller. After that, he'll probably have to fight Pulev in Bulgaria to satisfy his IBF mandatory.

By then, surely, an undisputed fight in the UK is a 50/50 fight, no?

[Noelanthony]

After all the games played last year, Wilder specifically said: DO NOT TALK TO ME UNLESS IT'S 50/50. Remember?

So what did Hearn do? Exactly what you're doing. Playing games... They'll probably respond when Hearn is ready to split everything down the middle. Not my place to say whether it's fair or not, but I understand. Hell, you guys are still playing games, claiming the $50 million against 50% guarantee Sky offer from Showtime wasn't real. But that was really the beginning of the end of negotiations with Hearn and Joshua. Especially after Wilder agreed to the flat fee *game* but wanted the fight to be next with a two-way rematch clause.

Joshua fought Povetkin instead and got his nose broken. Wilder fought Fury in a Fight of the Year candidate that still has a buzz to this day. Even Fury said that he'll make more in the Wilder rematch than what was offered by Hearn.

So Wilder is rematching Fury and they'll share the profits on more agreeable terms. Joshua is apparently ditching the April 13th Wembley date and is coming to New York for much less than the $50 million to fight Miller. After that, he'll probably have to fight Pulev in Bulgaria to satisfy his IBF mandatory.

By then, surely, an undisputed fight in the UK is a 50/50 fight, no?

Listen Dave I know you mean well . I actually see myself in you when I was 15 years. The blind faith and her fat knockers(****) sold me. Wilder is not even all that this crush is ridiculous.

I like your energy but you are fighting a losing cause. I’m not even going to go over old ground about the flat fee Wilder accepted on Social media . The same social media that Joshua asked for 50 million and you and your minions keep bringing up.

Dave I only want you to see the light. I feel it’s my duty to open your eyes you can’t deliberately be this obtuse?

I like the way you tried to slip that in:-

“ Wilder is rematching Fury and they ‘ll share the profits on more agreeable terms”

What does that mean do you mean a 60-40 split? Lol Why does Wilder think he deserves 60% considering he lost the first fight and only has one belt ? However he is champion so I understand . So how about a 4 belt holder that earns double what he makes fighting Mandatories don’t you think he deserves 60% against Wilder? Your blind faith is admirable. “I can take you places. Meet people”

Davey you will look back on this day and think why you wasted so much of your time on Wilder. He doesn’t care about you

[Sledgeweather17]

I also really question his corner. Throw the jab more often and attack the body! If he doesn't, he will lose.

I wonder if there is truth to him saying he broke his arm 3 months before training started for the first fight? If true, it would explain his hesitation to throw and his stamina issues, which he never had before.

He didn't really have hesitation to throw in the Fury fight, just stamina issues.

The arm thing could be true or not, I don't know. I know he broke his hand in the 3rd round of the first Sirvirne fight and had to have surgery, I know he broke it again against Areola AND tore his bicept in the same fight.

So he does seem to be injury prone in his arms/hands, and he does seem to recover incredibly fast as well as he was back after six months boh times.

So it could be true I guess, but I dunno.

[davefromvancouv]

Listen Dave I know you mean well . I actually see myself in you when I was 15 years. The blind faith and her fat knockers(****) sold me. Wilder is not even all that this crush is ridiculous.

I like your energy but you are fighting a losing cause. I’m not even going to go over old ground about the flat fee Wilder accepted on Social media . The same social media that Joshua asked for 50 million and you and your minions keep bringing up.

Dave I only want you to see the light. I feel it’s my duty to open your eyes you can’t deliberately be this obtuse?

I like the way you tried to slip that in:-

“ Wilder is rematching Fury and they ‘ll share the profits on more agreeable terms”

What does that mean do you mean a 60-40 split? Lol Why does Wilder think he deserves 60% considering he lost the first fight and only has one belt ? However he is champion so I understand . So how about a 4 belt holder that earns double what he makes fighting Mandatories don’t you think he deserves 60% against Wilder? Your blind faith is admirable. “I can take you places. Meet people”

Davey you will look back on this day and think why you wasted so much of your time on Wilder. He doesn’t care about you

You don't get it. Yet...

Why did Klitschko offer Wilder step aside money to fight Stiverne for the vacant WBC belt?
Why did Shelly Finkel say Wilder was too much of a baby heavyweight to fight Klitschko?
Why did Joshua overpay Martin, who won the IBF title on a technicality?
Why did Joshua offer Parker a percentage?
Why DIDN'T Joshua offer a percentage to Wilder? Wilder was champion before Martin and Parker. Why not fight him first if he was so easy to beat?

If you can't see that Klitschko, Martin, Parker and Joshua believed that Wilder was the better fighter (at the time), then you need to open your eyes a little wider.

Wilder was avoided. His own manager refused to put him in with his cash cow (Klitschko), much like Freddie Roach refusing to allow Pacquiao to fight Crawford in a legacy defining fight. Joshua was considered green and beatable so Martin, Klitschko and Parker chose to fight him over Wilder. And when it came time for Joshua to fight Wilder, he continually moved the goal posts to avoid fighting him.

Then Fury stepped up and gave Joshua more confidence about his chances against Wilder. Joshua demanded the Wilder fight and all he had to say was: Wembley, April 13th, 50/50. It not only would have been acceptable to Wilder, but also to Fury's team, who wanted Fury to fight a lighter touch after that horrific knockdown. But of course, the offer was never made, Wilder's performance was ridiculed and the Fury rematch is going ahead as planned.

I want to see Wilder-Joshua as much as any boxing fan. But Joshua had every opportunity to get Wilder in the ring before the Wilder-Fury rematch and has dropped the ball each and every time. Hopefully he makes the fight happen after the rematch and hopefully he shows up to the Wilder-Fury fight this time, so that there's a built up interest in seeing him fight the winner.