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  • #21
    Thurman's power and chin is overated in welterweight.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Bestlefty View Post
      Thurman's power and chin is overated in welterweight.
      one time run time's last ko was in 2013 lol.

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      • #23
        No bob, Keith looked good but only in one round he didn't but he also showed heart in that round. Stop hatin' bob.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
          bob protecting crawford more like it lol... just like how spence and crawford permanently damaged their opponents right??? lol... i thought pac asked for $20mil and that's why the fight didnt get made? now it was because arum didnt wanna see manny get hurt?? lol... yet he didnt care about matching pac up against margarito? put pac in with marquez 4x? lol.
          You know Bob, "I was lying yesterday, but today...!" What I do remember is:

          June 1, 2017:

          After Crawford's most recent win from three weeks ago, when he demolished Olympic gold medal winner Felix Diaz, he called for a fight with Pacquiao.

          But Roach is not a big fan of the fight, and says the reason are strictly financial for his fighter.

          Roach would much rather have him face three division world champion Mikey Garcia or former two division champion Danny Garcia.

          “Who’s Terence Crawford?” said Roach to ABS-CBN News. “Popularity-wise, I think Mikey Garcia is the best option, because it will pit Mexican versus Filipino,” he added. But I like Danny Garcia the best.”

          “(Danny) came all the way to my gym and they don’t like me. But he shook my hand and said, ‘I want Manny Pacquiao. I said okay, but they got to talk to Michael Koncz and Manny.”

          According to Roach, he doesn't believe a black fighter being matched against a Filipino will do good business on pay-per-view. Other than Pacquiao's mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach indicates that Pacquiao's numbers against black fighters on pay-per-view have not been impressive.

          But Pacquiao did over a million buys for Shane Mosley, who at the time was viewed as a big underdog. And Pacquiao's numbers against Joshua Clottey, who was unknown, generated around 700,000 buys. However, Crawford is likely going to demand a guarantee than Mosley or Clottey received for facing Pacquiao, who would also want a really big guarantee to face Crawford - which leaves Top Rank in a tough spot where the pay-per-view would have to generate a high number to avoid taking a loss.

          Filipino against Mexican sells well, but Filipjno against black? It doesn’t sell well in America,” said Roach. “(Crawford) has audience, yes. In Nebraska, (where he comes from).”

          https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...garcia--117152

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            You know Bob, "I was lying yesterday, but today...!" What I do remember is:

            June 1, 2017:

            After Crawford's most recent win from three weeks ago, when he demolished Olympic gold medal winner Felix Diaz, he called for a fight with Pacquiao.

            But Roach is not a big fan of the fight, and says the reason are strictly financial for his fighter.

            Roach would much rather have him face three division world champion Mikey Garcia or former two division champion Danny Garcia.

            “Who’s Terence Crawford?” said Roach to ABS-CBN News. “Popularity-wise, I think Mikey Garcia is the best option, because it will pit Mexican versus Filipino,” he added. But I like Danny Garcia the best.”

            “(Danny) came all the way to my gym and they don’t like me. But he shook my hand and said, ‘I want Manny Pacquiao. I said okay, but they got to talk to Michael Koncz and Manny.”

            According to Roach, he doesn't believe a black fighter being matched against a Filipino will do good business on pay-per-view. Other than Pacquiao's mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach indicates that Pacquiao's numbers against black fighters on pay-per-view have not been impressive.

            But Pacquiao did over a million buys for Shane Mosley, who at the time was viewed as a big underdog. And Pacquiao's numbers against Joshua Clottey, who was unknown, generated around 700,000 buys. However, Crawford is likely going to demand a guarantee than Mosley or Clottey received for facing Pacquiao, who would also want a really big guarantee to face Crawford - which leaves Top Rank in a tough spot where the pay-per-view would have to generate a high number to avoid taking a loss.

            Filipino against Mexican sells well, but Filipjno against black? It doesn’t sell well in America,” said Roach. “(Crawford) has audience, yes. In Nebraska, (where he comes from).”

            https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...garcia--117152

            roach has no say in who manny fights. the bolded part in red is pretty much roach.

            i just find it funny that bob says manny asked for $20mil but is now saying he was the one that killed the fight..........

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Bestlefty View Post
              Thurman's power and chin is overated in welterweight.
              But he has been a welterweight his whole career. So where would they not be overrated?

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              • #27
                Bob is lying. To me, that fight showed that thurman is a great fighter. To fight lopez after 2 years and withstand what lopez brought to the ring, and to weather getting hurt like he did and stay composed and box and fight whenever he needed to, keith is an excellent fighter with a boxing brain. If his conditioning wasn't up to par, it would have been a wrap. Say whatever u want about josesito isn't elite, but that josesito who showed up that night, would have stopped a lot of fighters. That was not the same josesito, anyone with eyes can see that. **** that josesito would have stopped pacquiao

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
                  Bob is lying. To me, that fight showed that thurman is a great fighter. To fight lopez after 2 years and withstand what lopez brought to the ring, and to weather getting hurt like he did and stay composed and box and fight whenever he needed to, keith is an excellent fighter with a boxing brain. If his conditioning wasn't up to par, it would have been a wrap. Say whatever u want about josesito isn't elite, but that josesito who showed up that night, would have stopped a lot of fighters. That was not the same josesito, anyone with eyes can see that. **** that josesito would have stopped pacquiao
                  lopez a b-c level fighter brah. nothing impressive. that's what thurman is suppose to do. beat lopez! but instead thurman almost got stopped himself.

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                  • #29
                    regardless of all the talk Thurm shook off some ring rust plus some serious pressure by Lopez. that said he and the pacman are going to have a great fight. (HAYMON)

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
                      bob protecting crawford more like it lol... just like how spence and crawford permanently damaged their opponents right??? lol... i thought pac asked for $20mil and that's why the fight didnt get made? now it was because arum didnt wanna see manny get hurt?? lol... yet he didnt care about matching pac up against margarito? put pac in with marquez 4x? lol.
                      Yeah Thurman did look bad I mean it was Josesito Lopez lol. Berto and Maidana blew him out in 6. Thurman didn't have the power. I think Thurman's heart is no longer in boxing. He just wants a couple more checks and he's done.

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