Who is the greatest White American champion currently & all time?

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  • Lomadeaux
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    #31
    I like how he said, "Non-Italian" like Italians aren't white.

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    • Marchegiano
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      #32
      Since when are Italians not white?

      Dave had another draft or some ****?

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        All-time it’s got to be Harry Greb based on resume. He has the greatest resume in the history of the sport and is no worse than a top 3 all-time.

        Benny Leonard and Willie Pep are also two names on every historians top 10 lists. Mickey Walker can’t be too far off, surely no worse than top 12.

        Now? Plant is probably it. White Americans just don’t get into the sport anymore. Back in the days there were so many Italians, ***ish and Irish getting into the sport and dominating.

        Historically there's tons and many are among the absolute greatest of all-time.

        Surefire top 10's

        Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep

        (Almost) certain top 20's

        Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Gene Tunney, Tony Canzoneri

        Certain top 20-40 guys

        Packey MacFarland, Billy Conn, Tommy Gibbons, Terry McGovern, Tommy Loughran

        Certain top 40-60 guys

        Jack Britton, Mike Gibbons, Stanley Ketchel, Tommy Ryan

        Other notable greats

        Jake LaMotta, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Abe Attell, Lou Ambers, Fritzie Zivic, Maxie Rosenbloom, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Joey Maxim, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Joey Giardello, Teddy Yarosz, Pete Herman, Tony Zale

        and many more.
        greenk for really good post.

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        • TonyGe
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          #34
          GUYS I see Willie Pep on a lot of lists. Willie is an Italian American. His real name is Guglielmo Papaleo. His parents were born in Italy. So according to the OP he's off the list?

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          • TonyGe
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lomadeaux
            I like how he said, "Non-Italian" like Italians aren't white.
            Apparently not LOL. Growing up I got
            many comments directed towards me about my not so apparent non whiteness..

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            • TonyGe
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              #36
              Originally posted by embryo
              Joe Calzaghe was pretty good
              Also Italian. His nickname is The Italian Dragon..

              This is one wierd thread by the way..

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              • TonyGe
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                #37
                Just to see how bad things can get I nominate Andre Ward.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                  I like how he said, "Non-Italian" like Italians aren't white.
                  The “non-Italian” comment was probably because he didn’t realize there’s been a plethora of great ***ish, Irish and other backgrounds too. I’m sure it’s a thread designed to mock. Probably part ignorance to say Italians aren’t “Caucasian” like Spaniards and Portuguese aren’t either but Slavics are lol..That’s even more dumb than saying “Egyptians aren’t African”.

                  It sort of backfired after thinking Willie Pep, Rocky Marciano and some Europeans like Calzaghe and Lomachenko are disqualified not knowing the success of careers of such legends as Greb, Walker, Conn, Leonard, Ross, Zale, Ketchel, MacFarland, Tunney etc; children of Irish (Walker, Tunney, MacFarland, Conn), ***ish European (mostly Russian like Leonard and Ross) , German (Greb), Polish (Ketchel and Zale) etc; immigrants.

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                  • Papirico52
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                    #39
                    I also learned in this thread that italians aren't white, damn!!!

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                    • Papirico52
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Madison boxing
                      Them NASCAR fans are too busy shooting up schools whilst the brothers take care of business in the ring stateside
                      Or doing their cousins.

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