Who is the greatest White American champion currently & all time?

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  • Motofan
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    #11
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    All-time it’s got to be Harry Greb based on resume. He has the greatest resume in the history of the sport and is no worse than a top 3 all-time.

    Benny Leonard and Willie Pep are also two names on every historians top 10 lists. Mickey Walker can’t be too far off, surely no worse than top 12.

    Now? Plant is probably it. White Americans just don’t get into the sport anymore. Back in the days there were so many Italians, ***ish and Irish getting into the sport and dominating.

    Historically there's tons and many are among the absolute greatest of all-time.

    Surefire top 10's

    Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep

    (Almost) certain top 20's

    Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Gene Tunney, Tony Canzoneri

    Certain top 20-40 guys

    Packey MacFarland, Billy Conn, Tommy Gibbons, Terry McGovern, Tommy Loughran

    Certain top 40-60 guys

    Jack Britton, Mike Gibbons, Stanley Ketchel, Tommy Ryan

    Other notable greats

    Jake LaMotta, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Abe Attell, Lou Ambers, Fritzie Zivic, Maxie Rosenbloom, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Joey Maxim, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Joey Giardello, Teddy Yarosz, Pete Herman, Tony Zale

    and many more.
    My guess is the op wasn't expecting an educated answer.

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      #12
      The dude that started this must be a Trump supporter.

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #13
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        All-time it’s got to be Harry Greb based on resume. He has the greatest resume in the history of the sport and is no worse than a top 3 all-time.

        Benny Leonard and Willie Pep are also two names on every historians top 10 lists. Mickey Walker can’t be too far off, surely no worse than top 12.

        Now? Plant is probably it. White Americans just don’t get into the sport anymore. Back in the days there were so many Italians, ***ish and Irish getting into the sport and dominating.

        Historically there's tons and many are among the absolute greatest of all-time.

        Surefire top 10's

        Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep

        (Almost) certain top 20's

        Barney Ross, Mickey Walker, Gene Tunney, Tony Canzoneri

        Certain top 20-40 guys

        Packey MacFarland, Billy Conn, Tommy Gibbons, Terry McGovern, Tommy Loughran

        Certain top 40-60 guys

        Jack Britton, Mike Gibbons, Stanley Ketchel, Tommy Ryan

        Other notable greats

        Jake LaMotta, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Abe Attell, Lou Ambers, Fritzie Zivic, Maxie Rosenbloom, Nonpareil Jack Dempsey, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Joey Maxim, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Joey Giardello, Teddy Yarosz, Pete Herman, Tony Zale

        and many more.
        This is the best answer there is. Here, here!

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        • 'b'
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          #14
          Cletus Seldin, though he might be Canadian

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          • Real King Kong
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Ondeado
            Non Hispanic or Non Italian! Just White, British, Irish, or any other Western European American!
            Just out of curiosity, what discounts Italians?

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            • daggum
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              #16
              Originally posted by Real King Kong
              Just out of curiosity, what discounts Italians?

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              • The D3vil
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                #17
                It's gotta be Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey or Gene Tunney

                The other ones are Irish, Italian, ***s.

                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                Willie Pep or Harry Greb.
                Willie Pep is Italian

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                  Cletus Seldin, though he might be Canadian
                  The Hebrew Hammer is disqualified

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                  • Motorcity Cobra
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                    #19
                    Can't believe the gawd hasn't been mentioned yet

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                      #20
                      Joe Calzaghe was pretty good

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