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  • Madison Boxing
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    #1

    this forum downplays uk fighters...

    ...every damn time. seems as if nothing positive is allowed to be said about a brit

    so a 46-0 fighter in JOE CALZAGHE with 21 defences, unifying 3 belts, who beat lacy, roy jones, hopkins, kessler, eubank amongst others is now apparantly a 'fraud'. Even at the time he was active he wasnt rated, look at the old lacy/calzaghe media predictions, they just assumed lacy would walk right through him, they were picking him to stop him in 3 rounds ffs. But when joe wins every round it doesnt count, it must have been because lacy wasnt good, it wasnt a case of calzaghe being brilliant, no cause that means giving credit to joe. And beating hopkins and roy jones doesnt count because they were old, because joe was such a spring chicken at that age too wasnt he?

    ANTHONY JOSHUA picks up 3 heavyweight belts in a short space of time consistently fighting top 5 opponents but 'hes third best in the division' and not a real champ. The real champ at the time was wilder because he beat one old fat old cuban who is heavily rumoured to be approaching 50 years old.

    Then when you try to reason with these guys and say TYSON FURY would outbox wilder and deserve to win (as i predicted) you get laughed at. Again he never got credit for the wladimir fight, he apparently won because 'wlad never threw punches' as if he made the conscientious decision to go in there, not throw punches and lose.

    When ward won his tournament he was p4p top 3. When usyk won his tournament hes p4p top 3. If inoue wins his i bet he'll be p4p top 3 (some people have him up there already). But when CALLUM SMITH wins his tournament, we dont count it. Hes not allowed to be called the top dog in his own division. Everyone says the UK dominated 168 line up was weak. What exactly was/is so amazing about that cruiserweight line up or the bantamweight one?

    When leo santa cruz goes 1-1 with frampton he becomes number 1 in the division and goes on the p4p list. When JOSH WARRINGTON beats frampton even easier and beats unbeaten lee selby, hes talked about like hes some fringe level fighter and not even top 3 in his own damn division. Them wins are better than half the fighters on the p4p list have.

    Then an outstanding amateur such as JOE JOYCE comes along after getting robbed in olympic finals, starts knocking everyone out as a pro and hes not even in contention for any prospect of the year awards and youve got posters on here calling him 'a big oaf' and 'the frankenstein monster', yet other prospects who have done nothing more in the pros and did a lot less in the amateurs are talked about as superstars.

    why is this the case?
  • KingKrypton
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    I think the Brits rate Calzaghe too high, he wouldn't beat Andre Ward at any point in time. Don't act like he is an all time great. People in the States are critical of Mayweather's resume but he fought far superior fighters when they were on the up compared to Calzaghe.

    The Brits feel threatened by Deontay Wilder, thats why they downplay Wilders accomplishments fact is Fury is better than all of Joshua's opponents. Joshua has done some nice work but he is fake af. Refusing to acknowledge Wilder in past, no face to face, no callouts, ridiculous fight demands, asking for $50 million but refusing it. Your own countrymen Fury has praised Wilder and so many of them including Lennox Lewis are critical of Joshua's actions.

    I got no strife with Usyk, Frampton, Warrington, Joyce, Josh Taylor etc. Would like to see them in bigger fights.

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    • deanrw
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      The Brits have been pushing an agenda of making the IBO an official belt. That to me is fantastic as we need more and more official sanctioning bodies. When the day comes when every single professional fighter has a world championship belt it will be glorious indeed.


      On a serious note. There are good British fighters and over rated ones just like from everywhere else. I think most of it stems from the fact that Britain pushes out so many fighters, and many get overhyped from fighting domestic level opposition, that the really good British fighters slip through the cracks a bit.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #4
        Why all this crying tho?

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        • N/A
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          #5
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          so a 46-0 fighter in JOE CALZAGHE with 21 defences
          How many of those defenses were during the time when the WBO wasn't a fully recognized world title?

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          • 4truth
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            #6
            This board always has somebody being tough on everybody. Who exactly do you think is receiving universal love and adoration?

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            • HanzGruber
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              #7
              i imagine you wrote this with tears down your face, no wonder you guys lost the war

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              • Marchegiano
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                #8
                You ****in' Sally that ya're

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                • mcdonalds
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                  #9
                  All you ever do is cry on here. You're such a VICTIM

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                  • strykr619
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by KingKrypton
                    I think the Brits rate Calzaghe too high, he wouldn't beat Andre Ward at any point in time. Don't act like he is an all time great. People in the States are critical of Mayweather's resume but he fought far superior fighters when they were on the up compared to Calzaghe.

                    The Brits feel threatened by Deontay Wilder, thats why they downplay Wilders accomplishments fact is Fury is better than all of Joshua's opponents. Joshua has done some nice work but he is fake af. Refusing to acknowledge Wilder in past, no face to face, no callouts, ridiculous fight demands, asking for $50 million but refusing it. Your own countrymen Fury has praised Wilder and so many of them including Lennox Lewis are critical of Joshua's actions.

                    I got no strife with Usyk, Frampton, Warrington, Joyce, Josh Taylor etc. Would like to see them in bigger fights.
                    Sadly i do agree with the assessment on Calzaghe, he didn't fight enough top tier fighters to be considering and ATG (HoF for sure thou).

                    Be sides that the UK in the last 2 decades has gotten a lot of love in the boxing world so i dunno where the victim mindset is coming from? I mean c'mon Tyson Fury alone is respected here stateside. Khan blew his shot and Lennox is considered by many as the last Legendary HW boxer in the modern era.

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